Chinook pilot v RAF Movers
Aren't Chinook drivers and Movers one in the same? They both shift stuff.
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My copy must be 25 years old now, very dogeared and has survived several purges of the bookcases to make room, but what a book though. The standard by which others are judged 
I compare them all to 'Chickenhawk'
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I don't think that all of the comments in those reviews represent the whole movements trade. I am disappointed by some of the comments in the book but please don't think we are all like that. Perhaps some of you on here would like to have a go at being a mover and see how long you last.
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Does it come prepunched in the top left hand corner to hang up on a rusty nail?
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Dont you mean, "Oi, Propeller Man!".
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Irrespective of what the reviews say I can't believe that the RAF actualy endorsed this book in the politicaly correct 'one team' Air Force when the author takes pot shots at ground and support trades which without his hydraulic palm tree would be just that parked in the desert U/S and useless to everybody.
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First time I tried it said "Page not found" and the second time it redirected me somewhere else... So it's a genuine Movers site...
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Awwww come on salad dodger, you get to fly all over the world and do this
It's been my experience that Onan the Bagbarian, is capable of damaging more RAF airframes than all the Libyan & Iraqi air defence systems combined.
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Perhaps some of you on here would like to have a go at being a mover
a. Went to sleep down the back (usually having demanded a partial stretcher fit for that very reason), as soon as the GTC shut down.
b. Screwed up the load plan.
c. Were totally unresponsive WRT unloading Albert at Destination (See Para a), to the point where we, the Crew, unloaded Albert.
I would have loved to have been a Mover and been paid for doing the Square Root of **** All!
Useless bunch of ******* twats.
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Grrrrrr.....
Oh dear God......seriously? You know what, who cares what the f*cking movers think, Frenchy is a genuinely nice bloke, not a writer (ghost written book) who is a bloody good and brave pilot (DFC and AFC now), like many others of his ilk who do not get recognised. If he didn't whinge about movers this would not have been an honest book! So, if you can't take a joke, you shouldn't have become a mover!
In sum, get a life, get on the front line (that is outside the wire for any movers reading this), get shot at, get a medal, then you will have the right to have a pop at a decent bloke like Alex.
Those reviews just sum up how pathetic and petty some people can be....
Rant over. Maybe.
In sum, get a life, get on the front line (that is outside the wire for any movers reading this), get shot at, get a medal, then you will have the right to have a pop at a decent bloke like Alex.
Those reviews just sum up how pathetic and petty some people can be....
Rant over. Maybe.
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PS - popped over to RAFMOVS.com and had a look at their 'Sandbags and Swinging Lanterns' section (with the following sub-note: Been there, seen it, done it. Then it must be time to pull up a sandbag. If you have got any stories you want to share them then please post them here), hoping it would be full of tales of daring mover do, but was sadly disappointed to find only two threads, one being about Swinderby and the other about Falklands photos......BLUNT!!!!!!
Guess that thread sums up the trade then.......
Ok, I understand that not all movers are knobs but I have seen countless examples in 25 years of service all round the world on ops and exercises, of smug, power holding, information with-holding that has resulted in ill informed and disgruntled pax. It is all about effective communication and easing the way, surely? Or am I wrong?
Need to go to bed now.......
Guess that thread sums up the trade then.......
Ok, I understand that not all movers are knobs but I have seen countless examples in 25 years of service all round the world on ops and exercises, of smug, power holding, information with-holding that has resulted in ill informed and disgruntled pax. It is all about effective communication and easing the way, surely? Or am I wrong?
Need to go to bed now.......
OK,
first off, I'm pretty sure HM the Queen is not in the habit of handing out gallantry awards to the underserving - twice.
For the uninitiated, the DFC was for taking an RPG through the airframe, badly damaging the aircraft, and for landing safely with the governor of Helmand onboard. He went on to take pqrt in a major deliberate op only days later which was 'kinetic in nature'.
The AFC was for rescuing two casualties from the Sangin valley, at night and in a sandstorm flying at low level and with no more than 200M visibility at any point - the IR anti-col of an FLIR equipped Apache his only source of reference for a 100 mile round trip (twice).
This was only days after taking a number of rounds and an airburst RPG whilst attempting to resupply the Paras.
Sounds pretty worthwhile.
Now thats put to bed, a quick word about the movers.
As an ex-mover, I was also Frenchies crewman when he was awarded the AFC, so I think I am fairly uniquely qualified to comment.
I know a great deal of movers who work incredibly hard and regularly go above and beyond to ensure things run smoothly. They get very little credit when things go right, but carry the can when things go wrong.
I also know a number of movers for whom the act of being difficult is to be taken to an artform. Thankfully, they are small in number, but tend to provide our lasting impression of the trade.
So, is the outrage justified?
I'm sure the majority of hard working movers will be a little miffed at the negative outlook of their trade. I'm sure those at which the critisism is particularly levelled will be most vocal and are probably too busy typing abuse into Amazon to read this anyway.
However, either Frenchie's allegations are untrue (something I severely doubt knowing Frenchie) or they are true, but those concerned are angry they were pointed out.
To those I would point out that Frenchie is also critical of other aspects of the Op experience - not just movers, and thats partly the appeal of the book.
Good luck to all, whatever side of the fence. But I would suggest it is time this was put to bed.
first off, I'm pretty sure HM the Queen is not in the habit of handing out gallantry awards to the underserving - twice.
For the uninitiated, the DFC was for taking an RPG through the airframe, badly damaging the aircraft, and for landing safely with the governor of Helmand onboard. He went on to take pqrt in a major deliberate op only days later which was 'kinetic in nature'.
The AFC was for rescuing two casualties from the Sangin valley, at night and in a sandstorm flying at low level and with no more than 200M visibility at any point - the IR anti-col of an FLIR equipped Apache his only source of reference for a 100 mile round trip (twice).
This was only days after taking a number of rounds and an airburst RPG whilst attempting to resupply the Paras.
Sounds pretty worthwhile.
Now thats put to bed, a quick word about the movers.
As an ex-mover, I was also Frenchies crewman when he was awarded the AFC, so I think I am fairly uniquely qualified to comment.
I know a great deal of movers who work incredibly hard and regularly go above and beyond to ensure things run smoothly. They get very little credit when things go right, but carry the can when things go wrong.
I also know a number of movers for whom the act of being difficult is to be taken to an artform. Thankfully, they are small in number, but tend to provide our lasting impression of the trade.
So, is the outrage justified?
I'm sure the majority of hard working movers will be a little miffed at the negative outlook of their trade. I'm sure those at which the critisism is particularly levelled will be most vocal and are probably too busy typing abuse into Amazon to read this anyway.
However, either Frenchie's allegations are untrue (something I severely doubt knowing Frenchie) or they are true, but those concerned are angry they were pointed out.
To those I would point out that Frenchie is also critical of other aspects of the Op experience - not just movers, and thats partly the appeal of the book.
Good luck to all, whatever side of the fence. But I would suggest it is time this was put to bed.
Movers, pah, amateurs, try getting out to your aircraft at Manchester as crew. Security are the most ungracious, odious group of individuals dealing with aircrew I have ever come across, at any airport, in my life.