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Old 22nd Mar 2012, 19:56   #1 (permalink)
 
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What a waste

With the stories of not enough indoor space for our larger aircraft to get maintained. I was at a south Wales base today.

Answers if known please.

Why is that massive white complex completly barren. What a waste of a fantastic facility.
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Old 22nd Mar 2012, 21:05   #2 (permalink)
 
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It's simple - if we use facilities at bases that have been deemed redundant then that proves the original case to make them redundant was wrong. Instead we soldier on with inadequate resources because no one at the higher levels is willing to admit that a mistake has been made.
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Old 22nd Mar 2012, 21:29   #3 (permalink)
 
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Or waste even greater sums of money renting space from private companies to service our aircraft in.
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Old 22nd Mar 2012, 21:31   #4 (permalink)

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Left hand of MoD not knowing what right hand was doing. Wonderful engineering facility built, with enough built in bells and whistles to give spontaneous orgasms to engineers, each of three hangars reconfigurable to take 2 x VC-10 or 12 x Hawks and lots of combinations (Tonkas and Jags and Harriers then) in between. Massive deal with WAG (Welsh Assembly Government) who take on ownership of base for vast amounts (cos they're responsible for reparations - see missing kit thread - lots of glow-in-the-dark stuff buried there!)

Then other bit of MoD "rolls forward" deep servicing to MOBs, which hadn't the facilities or the people to do the job so contractors were brought in. So no work for wonderful engineer-trouser-wetting facility.

No - come to think of it the same bit of MoD. I guess that makes it a case of the left hand not knowing what the left hand is doing.

You couldn't make it up ........
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Old 22nd Mar 2012, 21:34   #5 (permalink)
 
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When is the RAF going to learn that fast jet aircrew are good at flying fast jets, and piss poor at absolutely anything else?
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Old 22nd Mar 2012, 21:39   #6 (permalink)

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pr00ne I would agree with you for once, but I think in this case it was actually engineers who made the decision....

Cr@p decision whoever made it .......
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Old 23rd Mar 2012, 00:20   #7 (permalink)
 
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If only the RAF had enough Fast Jets to allow the pilots to keep flying then maybe there'd be less of a problem!!
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Old 25th Mar 2012, 15:00   #8 (permalink)
 
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And I have to look at the f*****g thing every day safe in the knowledge that my job may cease to exist around 2015. (Not forgetting the 100's whose jobs have already gone).

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Old 25th Mar 2012, 17:41   #9 (permalink)
 
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Also something rather large to do with location.

Nobody actually wanted to work there who could not be posted there and the local community didn't have the infrastructure to attract families.

So great facility, built in a place that doesn't attract all the people to make it viable.

There was a plan to use its fully, create the infrastructure, bring in the people, but there was a small matter of the MOD getting the sums rather wrong as to the levels of training required by HMG and it was found to be not economically viable, and so the programme never got started
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Old 25th Mar 2012, 18:22   #10 (permalink)
 
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and the local community didn't have the infrastructure to attract families.
What Cardiff??!!

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Nobody actually wanted to work there who could not be posted there
Is that still the case in today's depressed job market?
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Old 25th Mar 2012, 18:58   #11 (permalink)
 
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IIRC, the civvy in charge of this depressing balls up got a gong a few years ago.
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