V Bomber dispersal airfields after 1968
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V Bomber dispersal airfields after 1968
Gents,
A quick query on the V Force for you. Once it was stood down on the entry into service of Polaris, and adopted a tactical nuclear role, did the system of dispersal airfields remain in any form of practise or use?
In other words, in ttw measures, was it intended in the late 60s or early 70s that the Vulcans etc would go to the dispersal airfields as things warmed up, or were those plans scrapped with the end of the strategic role?
For those worried about OPSEC, the list of dispersal fields is well known and in the public domain!
A quick query on the V Force for you. Once it was stood down on the entry into service of Polaris, and adopted a tactical nuclear role, did the system of dispersal airfields remain in any form of practise or use?
In other words, in ttw measures, was it intended in the late 60s or early 70s that the Vulcans etc would go to the dispersal airfields as things warmed up, or were those plans scrapped with the end of the strategic role?
For those worried about OPSEC, the list of dispersal fields is well known and in the public domain!
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Jimlad, when the deterrent was handed over to the RN only one thing changed. The V-force stood down from the QRA. We no longer mounted one aircraft per sqn at RS15.
In fact the perceived threat from the V-force increased significantly after 1968. Two sqns deployed to Akrotiri and forward dispersals in Iran and Pakistan increased the reach by thousands of miles. When we first deployed the peripheral SAM belt was quite thin east of the Black Sea. Post deployment there was a significant increase in SAM 2 and 3.
I spoke with a crew member from the Strike Wing and they had covered similar targets to the Bomber Wing but clearly the perceived threat was now greater.
In fact the perceived threat from the V-force increased significantly after 1968. Two sqns deployed to Akrotiri and forward dispersals in Iran and Pakistan increased the reach by thousands of miles. When we first deployed the peripheral SAM belt was quite thin east of the Black Sea. Post deployment there was a significant increase in SAM 2 and 3.
I spoke with a crew member from the Strike Wing and they had covered similar targets to the Bomber Wing but clearly the perceived threat was now greater.
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Gents,
This is extremely helpful information- thank you for taking the time to post. I'd be particularly interested in whether Llanbedr, which was by then an RAE establishment, was still used in this way, particularly post 68. Also, whether any dispersals ever ocurred in RAF Chivenor, which wasnt a named location for them.
This is extremely helpful information- thank you for taking the time to post. I'd be particularly interested in whether Llanbedr, which was by then an RAE establishment, was still used in this way, particularly post 68. Also, whether any dispersals ever ocurred in RAF Chivenor, which wasnt a named location for them.
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Jimlad, Llanbedr was a Cottesmore dispersal. I can't recall if the Waddington Wing used it. Similarly Chivenor was used as a dispersal at some point.
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The Vulcan's at Leeming in '79 were on a normal practice dispersal, were they not?
The Aircrew and Groundcrew practising removing the spiders and associated detritus from the dispersal caravans by the Crash Gate to Lawson's Cafe.
From my point of view, as the Runway Caravan Controller, the only excitement was The Scramble.
As the aircraft applied power, the ground shook, the Runway Caravan shook, I shook, my stomach shook. My breakfast was deposited on the grass adjacent to the Caravan, surprisingly the regurgitated best efforts of the Airmen's Mess shook..
Awesome.
The Aircrew and Groundcrew practising removing the spiders and associated detritus from the dispersal caravans by the Crash Gate to Lawson's Cafe.
From my point of view, as the Runway Caravan Controller, the only excitement was The Scramble.
As the aircraft applied power, the ground shook, the Runway Caravan shook, I shook, my stomach shook. My breakfast was deposited on the grass adjacent to the Caravan, surprisingly the regurgitated best efforts of the Airmen's Mess shook..
Awesome.
Dispersal?
3 o`clock in the morning....Doorbell rings
Wifey goes down to answer it, she quickly returns & says
"There a bloke down there called Micky Finn - he says you have to go to work!"
10 o`clock ...I step out of a smelly vomit ridden Hastings to the beautiful sight of lots of water, loads of hills and some heather.
Midnight - all 4 AFs done, new chutes fitted and I`m staring at the dark waters of Cambletown Loch and my `heed` is thumping from the serious number of malts I`ve tried...
Happy days!
Wifey goes down to answer it, she quickly returns & says
"There a bloke down there called Micky Finn - he says you have to go to work!"
10 o`clock ...I step out of a smelly vomit ridden Hastings to the beautiful sight of lots of water, loads of hills and some heather.
Midnight - all 4 AFs done, new chutes fitted and I`m staring at the dark waters of Cambletown Loch and my `heed` is thumping from the serious number of malts I`ve tried...
Happy days!
..also "enjoyed" Brawdy, Filton and Bedford...but Macrihanish was the best....
Not just the Vulcan fleet. I can well remember a generation exercise at Marham in the early 80s when 55 dispersed to Kinloss. 4 x K2s complete with crewchiefs in the 6th. seat. The support groundcrew were driven from Marham to Kinloss in the old 32 seat blue grey coaches, not one of the happiest days.
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The Vulcan's at Leeming in '79 were on a normal practice dispersal, were they not?
The Aircrew and Groundcrew practising removing the spiders and associated detritus from the dispersal caravans by the Crash Gate to Lawson's Cafe.
From my point of view, as the Runway Caravan Controller, the only excitement was The Scramble.
As the aircraft applied power, the ground shook, the Runway Caravan shook, I shook, my stomach shook. My breakfast was deposited on the grass adjacent to the Caravan, surprisingly the regurgitated best efforts of the Airmen's Mess shook..
Awesome.
The Aircrew and Groundcrew practising removing the spiders and associated detritus from the dispersal caravans by the Crash Gate to Lawson's Cafe.
From my point of view, as the Runway Caravan Controller, the only excitement was The Scramble.
As the aircraft applied power, the ground shook, the Runway Caravan shook, I shook, my stomach shook. My breakfast was deposited on the grass adjacent to the Caravan, surprisingly the regurgitated best efforts of the Airmen's Mess shook..
Awesome.
The OC of the Vulcan det promised our course a beer if we'd attempt to infiltrate the dispersal area by the cafe. Unfortunately the det minibus was spotted entering the cafe car park and disgorging us so we were bubbled early on and soon in the bag.
How we laughed as we were chased and captured
50(B) Sqn were frequent visitors to RAE Bedford in the early '80s.
I remember one exercise when the SEngO longed a thunder flash straight into the guard sangar on the roof whilst getting to throw it over the roof into the field beyond.
"Stay on the bus" was always the call on arrival at the Keysoe Road gate, as if we wanted to get off......
I remember one exercise when the SEngO longed a thunder flash straight into the guard sangar on the roof whilst getting to throw it over the roof into the field beyond.
"Stay on the bus" was always the call on arrival at the Keysoe Road gate, as if we wanted to get off......
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It always amazed me the way the Fox (now long shut) always managed to order extra beer just before you lot turned up at Bedford. 
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t7a, quite correct, in fact the Bomber Controller had the time table and provided the train was on time it would work.
Another feature was we had the only flush toilets on the airfield. With the low water table, they said, the resident sqns had Elsans.
One year we had the JSHTU - Hovercraft trials unit - they would hover taxi from the sea down behind our dispersal. They came barging towards us on the ORP and had to do a hurried air dump.
Then there was the strictest adherence to the Bomber Command 4-hour feeding cycle. We had a post-flight, then a high tea of ham and eggs, steak and chips in the mess, and a late supper of H&E when we got back from the bar.
The favourite steward was Jenkins who could do wonders in lighting the fire, laying the tables, and delivery the meals quickly in batches of 5. Like your favourite cew chief, Jenkins was the favourite steward. The others hated him
Another feature was we had the only flush toilets on the airfield. With the low water table, they said, the resident sqns had Elsans.
One year we had the JSHTU - Hovercraft trials unit - they would hover taxi from the sea down behind our dispersal. They came barging towards us on the ORP and had to do a hurried air dump.
Then there was the strictest adherence to the Bomber Command 4-hour feeding cycle. We had a post-flight, then a high tea of ham and eggs, steak and chips in the mess, and a late supper of H&E when we got back from the bar.
The favourite steward was Jenkins who could do wonders in lighting the fire, laying the tables, and delivery the meals quickly in batches of 5. Like your favourite cew chief, Jenkins was the favourite steward. The others hated him
