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Old 17th Feb 2011, 23:04   #1 (permalink)
 
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Red Arrows reducing in size

It looks like they are going down to only 4 aircraft judging by the conference table... or maybe just a JENGO, display manager and a Synchro Pair...



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Old 17th Feb 2011, 23:22   #2 (permalink)
 
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Numbers are to be reduced. For the 2011 season the team will consist of 7 people.

AOC Aerobatic Policy & Doctrine
Gp Capt Airshow Engagement
Gp Capt Public Affairs and Media Strategy
Wg Cdr Team Leader
Wg Cdr SENGO
Sqn Ldr Aerobatic HR & Equality Policy
Red 1 [Charboy]

The display will last 6 minutes and contain straight and level flight only, following extensive integration working group profiling and in keeping with H&S and MAA guidelines.
The accompanying commentary will contain some details of the display, but will concentrate on delivering core values and ethos to the intended demographic.
Due to extensive cuts to the RAFAT budget, the number of displays has been cut dramatically. The team will now only display at the following venues:

Paris Air Show
Rio De Janiero Mardi Gras
New York Independance Day FlyPast
Johannasburg Airshow
Honolulu Fly-In Weekend
Prague Airshow
Maldives Aviation Festival
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Wot! They goin' back to Gnats are they?
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Old 18th Feb 2011, 01:32   #4 (permalink)
 
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Think we would see a far better display than what their forced to use now.
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mgd,

An interesting list of airshow venues, although the list fails to mention participation in any 'lgbt' festivals.

I take it the single aircraft will have multiple canisters to give a full rainbow smoke trail?
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Old 18th Feb 2011, 07:22   #6 (permalink)
 
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<I take it the single aircraft will have multiple canisters to give a full rainbow smoke trail?<

Hadn't you heard? For the 2011 financial year the single aircraft will change to a Vigilant T Mk 1. There is no budget for smoke canisters.
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Old 18th Feb 2011, 08:17   #7 (permalink)
 
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Red Arrows reducing in Size
Do you mean from this:

Airfix 1/48 Red Arrow Hawk Gift Set - A50031A - £17.99

to this?

BAe Hawk T.Mk.1 The Red Arrows by Revell
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Old 18th Feb 2011, 08:25   #8 (permalink)
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Sqn Ldr Aerobatic HR & Equality Policy
Red 1 [Charboy]

The display will last 6 minutes and contain straight and level flight only,
But surely that is discriminatory against minority groups? Why RED and why only straight, although having a singleton is fine?
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Old 18th Feb 2011, 08:26   #9 (permalink)
 
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Smoke

Perhaps they will save money by dropping the Blue smoke and using Red and White together to create Pink.


I suspect the "Straight" bit will need to be removed from the display so as not to offend.
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Old 18th Feb 2011, 08:36   #10 (permalink)
 
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naah, drop white. Blue and red = purple. We could get way up the top 100 if the reds put on a purple display for our LGBT brothers and sisters.
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Old 18th Feb 2011, 09:04   #11 (permalink)
 
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Heard they will be only using black smoke as a tribute and new formations will be the Harrier and Nimrod.
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Old 18th Feb 2011, 09:40   #12 (permalink)
 
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Due to lack of training time - "straight" will be amended to "straight -ish " .
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Old 18th Feb 2011, 09:43   #13 (permalink)
 
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By Straight-ish? D'you mean "bent"?
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Old 18th Feb 2011, 10:22   #14 (permalink)
 
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naah, drop white. Blue and red = purple. We could get way up the top 100 if the reds put on a purple display for our LGBT brothers and sisters.
Surely if they were to drop the blue instead of white then they would have a perfect pink- ideal for your suggestion
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Old 18th Feb 2011, 10:41   #15 (permalink)
 
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I've had a thought about the new display. They may need to remove the "level" bit as well, in order to include all the people who are not "Widow's sons" as they say.
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Very Good!
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Old 18th Feb 2011, 12:53   #17 (permalink)
 
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Numbers are to be reduced. For the 2011 season the team will consist of 7 people.

AOC Aerobatic Policy & Doctrine
Gp Capt Airshow Engagement
Gp Capt Public Affairs and Media Strategy
Wg Cdr Team Leader
Wg Cdr SENGO
Sqn Ldr Aerobatic HR & Equality Policy
Red 1 [Charboy]
It doesn’t matter how many times they go "up-diddly-up-up", they're still gits!

CWD

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Old 18th Feb 2011, 16:35   #18 (permalink)
 
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MGD,
well done - a pretty fair assessment of corporate strategy in this day and age, I'd think. Shouldn't there be some sort of equalities officer in there too? Preferably outwardly female, white, blonde haired, blue eyed, and determined to see more 'ethnicity' in the mix, along with a degree of ambivalence about gender?

I was going to suggest that some of the senior officers should be required to be gay, but then I can't help feeling that many probably are - it's a side effect of spending so much time up your boss's ahhhhhhnd another thing...


Well done, a well crafted and humorous take on a favourite PPRuNe theme....

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Old 19th Feb 2011, 00:26   #19 (permalink)
 
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Yes, a very fair and reasoned structure. Lacking though, I fear, in a couple of key areas- which could be filled as follows:
Liaison officer- newest and bestest nearest 'n' dearest
(must be french speaking- geddit?)
to be filled by a top end flt lt- success in this role ( defined as not starting WWIII ) rewarded with MBE and promotion.
Legal officer
preferably with a degree in vetinerary studies. To handle off the wall claims from people claiming that their angora / llama / hippopotamus kicked the bucket as a result of the display.
Flypast community mix compliance officer
to ensure that when a vet requests an en route flyover, the audience will consist of a proper mix of M/F (that's the easy bit) B/W, straight/ gay, etc, and the odd p1key.

I'm sure that there are other gaps to be filled. By the way, I'm assuming it's "no manoeuvres or turns below FL250" for H & S reasons?
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When balanced by the kick in the slats that our people are getting these days I believe that RAFAT should cease with immediate effect. The public will believe that everything is ok until they are directly effected and the demise of RAFAT would send a strong signal. It is time that the public arena had a strong smell of coffee circulating. I believe that BBMF are intent on sending the Dakota to India on a visit.......... ....and I am quite sure that the only reason UAS have ducked the SDSR radar is because they double up as a former senior officer flying club.

We really should bring the reality of the SDSR Crisis to bare down on the taxpayer. ...and it is: A Crisis!
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