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Does anyone know where a wide range of originals or good repros may be found? Nothing suitable on Ebay or the few websites I've looked at. The period that I'm interested in is the 1950s -1980s. Airfix/magazine covers would be fine.
I have some old 'Flight' magazine covers but I don't want to rip those, and I did read a while back that some rough copies (drafts) of some Airfix box artwork were being sold off, but those (and 'proper' prints) seem to be a bit thin on the ground.
Roy Cross prints are on Ebay, just search his name
Not Roy Cross, but Carless, Just bought 3 off Ebay, 2 at £20 and one at £25, I could not believe what I was staring at..
They are the original watercolours used by FROG on their model boxes........ they are Stunning and were just advertised as Original Watercolours, so I took a punt, they have Christies auction stickers on the back from 1995, so I am going to find out more about them from Christies...... I think they are a serious bargain and I was the only (lucky) bidder... I had my fingers and legs crossed
These are what I got, the Lower one has some slight fading, but I would have paid a lot more for them, just need remounting and framing.
Ebay seemed empty of decent Roy Cross stuff and there seemed to be just tat. I remember seeing some roughs for the B-29 Airfix kit up for sale and I would have loved to have got those.
But what you found is just the sort of thing I am looking for.
Thanks Nutters. I have some Victorian oils of battleships in my office and a couple of landscapes, but nothing from my working background - I want something I can reminisce over (that Fokker is a little too early for me, although maybe Chuggers could relate to it). Perhaps I need a copper etching of a 1980s period overflowing NAAFI urinal above my desk.
I was chatting with somone and he told me that in Victorian times, certain artists would just do certain aspects of an oil (ie one artist might be famous for doing just cattle or clouds and that was it, or one would paint faces and expressions, but not clothing - the piece would then be passed on to a 'dress specialist' before being returned for signing and 'passing off').
Ok, I've looked at the GaVA site, thats just the ticket - many thanks. I'll follow something up. The more you look into it and the more you see of what's available, the more you realise that what you get has got to be right. I'll contact them about commissions and thanks for your links. The plan evolves. I love those 1950's 'Flight' illustrations though - utterly fabulous.
Guys, we do our best to give you some leeway on what is and what isn't advertising. But we are flying too close to real advertising on this thread and we cannot allow it to go on. ANYTHING that shows it is for sale is advertising and is always in danger of being snipped. It has already happened. For one thing it is not fair on those who pay good money to advertise and quite another for those who don't - sometimes quite innocently but we have the scissors!
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Sorry, was just responding to AL R's request and pointing him hopefully in the right direction to sites where he can obtain a painting, as neither or indeed any of my posts were referring to anything I had for sale I felt I was not advertising, I did show some I had aquired and they are most definately not for sale.
Oddly enough under the rules of Advertising you would be pretty pushed to point anyone to any site including this one as to support the site pretty much everyone has sponsors advertising on them, but I take on board where you are coming from with your advertisers.......... once again, sorry if I niavely overstepped the mark.
I would simply point out that the site I mentioned does exactly what the GAVA site does - i.e. showcase a wide range of amateur and professional artists .
The GAVA is most definitely out there to aid the sale of artists works in the same way as the site I referred to.
Bit of a minefield for the moderator - Al R's request would have to be met entirely by PM methinks.
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I spoke with Hugo at GAvA who was very helpful. The work in the brochure that he sent me is also breathtaking. Even worse, it was inspirational, so this could get very expensive. Not because the work is that costly (£400-500 can get you something fabulous and unique) but because the scope is infinite and commissioning could be addictive. Regretably (thankfully?) I missed this event.
Although artists have to earn a crust and are in the strictest sense, commercial concerns, they are different from most other service providers in that they have niche offerings. Therefore, individually, they are unable to justify advertising costs. What they do though, is offer something unique. If other painters advertised, I might understand, but my initial question was genuine, not motivated by gain for anyone and what they do is integral to aviation.
It so happens that the occasional one has been allowed for a day or so but we do NOT advertise ebay. They are rich enough to do it themselves.
Commercial is commercial and it goes.
Them's the rules and there is little point in trying to suggest exceptions. There aren't any except if a mod see fits for 24hrs or so. But, as they say, someone always sees that as and inch...........
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PPRuNe Pop et al
Just to clarify a small point .
I was not the one who referred to the GAvA - in fact I referred Al to a totally separate site which serves much the same function - ie allow many Aviation Artists to promote their work and I only did so when I saw the other obviously commercial references in the thread .
Glad it's all sorted now though.
Note to self - must not follow the herd - must read all the small print - must think before pressing "send".
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picked up a chinese model of a MIG31 from a "pound shop" recently.
great box picture but i think the instructions might need a rethink,
ahem, "mig 31 high-speed fighter was made based on mig 25,
e-quipped with powerful turbofan, advance radar seeing.
the intercepting ability in low sky was much improved rapidly.
it named foxhound.
the missile is aa-9, aa-8 and aa10 aaam.
the fighter is with empty weight 21,000kg, thrust 14,000kg, radius 1,135km,
a crew of too members.
the model is much suitable imaginative you to make and value it"
Nutloose. those three pictures by Eric Carless are a great find. Carless worked for Rovex, the parent company of FROG, between 1966 and 1970, which should help you date your paintings.
Coincidentally, I acquired the original artwork for this FROG Miles Magister last month. (Apologies for posting the kit boxtop, but the original is off to the framers.) Not a great piece of art, but certainly evocative.
I've been wondering who the picture is by. Anyone recognise the style - Brian Knight, perhaps? It's a fairly hurried take in gouache.
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in my office and a couple of landscapes, but nothing from my working background - I want something I can reminisce over (that Fokker is a little too early for me, although maybe Chuggers could relate to it). Perhaps I need a copper etching of a 1980s period overflowing NAAFI urinal above my desk. 
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