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make your statement about unacceptability, but offer the defendant the chance to apologise and/or give him a week in the Sin Bin (which you apparently do sometimes)
That's what grown ups would do. Apologise for the indiscretion and move on.
This "Sin Bin" is what happened to me. I made an ill-judged comment on Beret wearing - pretty trivial in the grand scheme of things looking at some of the comments/issues on here. I then posted in what I thought was "banter" towards the Mods - no swearing and nothing politically incorrect. The result - Sin Bin (or the "cooler"!) for 7 days. I wrote to the Webmaster who decided that they would stand by their Mods - fair enough really, I suppose.
However, this all left me with a very bad feeling of being too harshly treated without adequate warning - the warning came with the ban!! Hence, I posted in my "hissy fit" state about a fortnight ago that I was finished with Prune - whilst I still feel agrieved, I don't feel alone as this would also appear to be happening to others.
If I'm going to the "Cooler" for another week - at least let me take my baseball and glove this time
I assume that when you say "twice deleted the comments of Flt Lt Anderton on the General McCrystal debate", you are not trying to imply that there is a thread somewhere on General McCrystal (sic)and that Flt Lt Anderton has commented on it and the mods have deleted those comments. I also assume that you really meant that there were 2 threads about Flt Lt Anderton's statement/question to General McChrystal that the mods have deleted.
If you actually read the second thread, started by ORAC (now the only one remaining and closed not deleted), it was stated there by me that the originator of the first thread deleted this thread himself! It was called 'Courage!' and was started by LFFT. Ask him! http://www.pprune.org/military-aircrew/390921-flight-lieutenant-victoria-anderton.html
ORAC's thread was closed because the topic had been discussed to death in the original thread!
This hardly warrants the wild accusation that "the moderators destroy even the slightest controversial subject". If you have something blindingly exciting and new to state about this event, then please feel free to start another thread, which will stand or fall on its own merit. If, however, the thread merely ends up repeating all the stuff that was on the original thread, it might not prove to have been worth the effort.
I find it strange that a thread is deleted simply because it had been 'discussed to death'.. after all, is that not the intention of niche messageboards, and anyway, what harm does it do by remaining on strength? If no one wants to discuss it anymore, having had it been discussed to death, surely it just fades away anyway, as do the hundreds of others in the same situation?
Its not the role of moderators to completely stop a thread because some content may be repetitive (after all, what about the Chinook/Formula 1/Crickets threads elsewhere)? I take the point that a thread starter may have stopped one of the threads, but whatever you think about her actions, this is a subject relating to expression that does have ramifications and might affect how others are feeling/thinking of acting.
The starter of the original thread deleted it because it was "getting too detailed" and bitty. The situation at the time the second thread was closed was that it happened at almost exactly the same time as the first thread was deleted by the thread starter, and my thinking at the time was that there was no point in just starting the same old stuff all over again straight away.
If you would like the opportunity to discuss this matter further though, I have resurrected ORAC's thread and bumped it for you.
Happy now?
However, if it gets into the absolute nonsense that was in the original thread, I reserve the right to dump it!
This hardly warrants the wild accusation that "the moderators destroy even the slightest controversial subject". If you have something blindingly exciting and new to state about this event, then please feel free to start another thread, which will stand or fall on its own merit. If, however, the thread merely ends up repeating all the stuff that was on the original thread, it might not prove to have been worth the effort.
Or just delete someone's post because you didn't like it?
"It's my football and I'm not going in goal"
And there was nothing controversial in my post at 0839 this morning. You lot (moderators) are trashing the art of open debate.
Last edited by anita gofradump : 4th October 2009 at 11:48.
Reason: to add that it wasn't Wholigan who deleted my post, but an unnamed Mod who has yet to explain why
I would love to add to anita gofradump's You lot (moderators) are trashing the art of open debate. But I fear that whatever I write will be moderated (that's a good word) out since that is the way that things are going nowdays----with even moderators moderating moderators!! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Thanks Shack - we discussed this so I hope you don't mind me changing it?
Last edited by Wholigan : 4th October 2009 at 12:34.
Perhaps the Moderators can redact rather than remove things, therefore when I say all moderators are (1) xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx , it won't appear but it will give people the chance to see I do have an opinion on the (2) xxxxxxxxxxx moderators. This could be used to moderate swear words or complete sentences, and is also in a form we are used to seeing.
Just a thought, if you don't agree you can (3) xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.
Unredacted=(1) a great bunch of guys doing a hard job.
Unredacted=(2) skillful moderators.
Unredacted=(3) say what you think freely.
Thanks for listening to us whine and being big enough to change course. Maybe you could have a "mods get-together" to discuss the current scheme of moderation as over the past couple of months this has attracted a recurring thread?
I too am a fan of open debate within the PC guidelines that we all know [and love!] these days. I do believe that the current "moderation scheme" is stiffling debate at times.
Out of interest, when I first joined PPRuNe, the Mil Thread was self-moderating. Don't object to Mods, in fact I think they're quite nice chaps/chapesses, who spread wisdom, understanding, largesse and Nigerian Lager around in equal doses. Just my thoughts, feel free to report me or disagree!
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