Blues if not flying
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Blues if not flying
Hot off the press. From now on, if you are not due to fly on a given day, you ARE TO wear blues... Another fantastic motivational idea from the higherarchy. It affects all RAF personnel from tomorrow, with the Army and Royal Navy to follow suit...
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Not quite IBN states "flying coveralls to be worn during flying related activities" so that covers about everything including flying a desks 
Aha, I thought - someone like me who gets the blues when they haven't flown for a while.........
I can see that this is unwanted and unwarranted triv, and another push-factor but anyone affected is lucky enough to be flying military aircraft and being paid to do so.
I sympathise, in other words, but don't let the chiselling blunt bastards grind you down.
I can see that this is unwanted and unwarranted triv, and another push-factor but anyone affected is lucky enough to be flying military aircraft and being paid to do so.
I sympathise, in other words, but don't let the chiselling blunt bastards grind you down.
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good not got a problem with that,happy to come in to work in blues in fact i do quite a lot, but does mean that when late local flying task or late sim slot comes in they can go find someone else to do it as i will not be suitably dressed.
takes me an hour to get home, and an hour back, and as we dont have any proper changing facilities or decent lockers sorts that one out.
Shall look forward to getting questioned on the main gate as to why am wearing working dress
Been through this loop several times in the past why not be sensible?
takes me an hour to get home, and an hour back, and as we dont have any proper changing facilities or decent lockers sorts that one out.
Shall look forward to getting questioned on the main gate as to why am wearing working dress
Been through this loop several times in the past why not be sensible?
I don't own this space under my name. I should have leased it while I still could
The dictat is from the AFB however the implementation will be open to interpretation.
Do you arrive on sqn in blues, change to growbag to fly, change to blue when standing in as auth, to growbag for the sim, to blues to SHQ to . . .
On some stations the answer will be yes and on others will be no.
I lay odds that one of my teams will pitch up in CS95 tomorrow as I guess they don't have denims and anyway denims are wholly impracticable for the work they are to do.
Bet my brown job turns up in greens too.
Do you arrive on sqn in blues, change to growbag to fly, change to blue when standing in as auth, to growbag for the sim, to blues to SHQ to . . .
On some stations the answer will be yes and on others will be no.
I lay odds that one of my teams will pitch up in CS95 tomorrow as I guess they don't have denims and anyway denims are wholly impracticable for the work they are to do.
Bet my brown job turns up in greens too.
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About time too!
Next up, lets take flying pay off those desk jockeys who never get airborne
Next up, lets take flying pay off those desk jockeys who never get airborne
Hehe you'll get into trouble for saying silly things like that! But I cound'nt agree more
This will solve a number of problems within the RAF....problems that didn't exist and didn't need solving.
As leadership goes, this is akin to finding a fire in the kitchen and thinking, 'hmmm, that looks a little difficult to tackle, what I'll do is repaint the living room instead'.
As has already been mentioned, this will add to the push factors. I find life at Odius fairly reminiscent of the dying days of the Soviet Union, in that if we repeat 'things are fine' enough times, they will be.
Not a chance. If you needed proof that the airships have lost the plot, this is it.
As leadership goes, this is akin to finding a fire in the kitchen and thinking, 'hmmm, that looks a little difficult to tackle, what I'll do is repaint the living room instead'.
As has already been mentioned, this will add to the push factors. I find life at Odius fairly reminiscent of the dying days of the Soviet Union, in that if we repeat 'things are fine' enough times, they will be.
Not a chance. If you needed proof that the airships have lost the plot, this is it.
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And yet again we go round the buoy.....
Every few years another Senior Officer thinks "hmm, I've a good idea..."
Why won't they learn to keep their "good ideas" to themselves?
Of course it's ok, it's not like we have a retention problem....
Every few years another Senior Officer thinks "hmm, I've a good idea..."
Why won't they learn to keep their "good ideas" to themselves?
Of course it's ok, it's not like we have a retention problem....
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Are you seriously suggesting people will leave because they can't wear their growbag status symbol in the mess and in the office?
I thought wings and brevets on blues would sufficiently butter ones ego!
Are you seriously suggesting people will leave because they can't wear their growbag status symbol in the mess and in the office?
I thought wings and brevets on blues would sufficiently butter ones ego!
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For Christ's sake, didn't we go through this nearly 20 years ago. Got diverted into Leuchars off a Lightning QRA scramble many moons ago and met an F4 mate in the crewroom who seemed to have put on more than a few pounds. Turns out he was wearing his No 1s under his goon suit as "he who's name cannot be mentioned in air defence" had decreed blues if not flying. Haven't we got more important things to deal with than trivia like this? If those in command are struggling for other motivational ideas, how about parades on Saturday morning? Why do they get paid so much? Trust them about as far as a bank manager!
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Why not go the whole hog and fly in blues!!
White roll neck sweater and No1 jacket- remind us of our glorius past.
Even better bring back those fur lined flying boots and yellow mae west's while we're at it.
White roll neck sweater and No1 jacket- remind us of our glorius past.
Even better bring back those fur lined flying boots and yellow mae west's while we're at it.
You're lucky The Scottish Officer allowed you in his crewroom - we landed our VC10K at Leuchars once after a live Sparrow firing support trip for 43 and 'he' took a very dim view of 'visitors' in 'his' crewroom. So we put our cups down and walked over to 111 where we were made to feel welcome.
TSO apparently used to make his people change between landing and debriefing, then change again after briefing for the next trip.
They weren't even allowed to come in for Q in flying kit - or go home again until they'd changed.
I thought this mindless stupidity had been $hitcanned years ago? But it's probably to divert grumbles away from more serious issues such as failing to find Blackjacks 90 sec from Hull.......
Another duck nibble and push factor; not the stupid order itself, but the mind-numbing embuggerance of having to change several times per day for no good reason.
I feel very sorry for those serving nowadays............
TSO apparently used to make his people change between landing and debriefing, then change again after briefing for the next trip.
They weren't even allowed to come in for Q in flying kit - or go home again until they'd changed.
I thought this mindless stupidity had been $hitcanned years ago? But it's probably to divert grumbles away from more serious issues such as failing to find Blackjacks 90 sec from Hull.......
Another duck nibble and push factor; not the stupid order itself, but the mind-numbing embuggerance of having to change several times per day for no good reason.
I feel very sorry for those serving nowadays............
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Had one of our co-pilots got a rollocking in SHQ at Bruggen one december coz he was wearing a short sleeve shirt instead of a long sleeve one Apparently it was in Bruggen SRO's (winter dress long sleeves!!!) (days of blues flying) and what on earth was he doing
After smiling and accepting the rollocking from said snr officer he explained that uniform he was wearing was flying kit!!!!!!!!!!! see you cant win even with blues
After smiling and accepting the rollocking from said snr officer he explained that uniform he was wearing was flying kit!!!!!!!!!!! see you cant win even with blues
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There is the other question as well, when i do CCS should I not practice my skills for going to war in the kit that i will be wearing when I go to war!!!!!!?????
Thats called a flying suit
Thats called a flying suit
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This absolutely staggered me today. I can hardly believe that ANYONE in this man's air force could find this important enough to find time to write and sign a briefing note on it. CAS and his underlings are crazy.
This in the same month that we are being forced to abandon perfectly good, working planning software in favour of another that doesn't work, isn't user friendly and holds less data. And I haven't even mentioned the keeping of receipts and downright penny-pinching that is an imprest these days.
To those who think we are petty to consider leaving over this-it is not the point that we are that bothered about uniform; it is that we can hardly believe the leadership has nothing better to concentrate on in such dire times. My section is 35% undermanned at the moment-what tiny amount of flexibility we have is now totally destroyed by a possible last minute crew replacement being in the wrong dress....Still, glad that the SWO has so little to do that a draft change to SROs was published before lunch.
If CAS reads this-WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING? TRYING TO PI$$ US OFF? Good luck to you sir, you have lost the plot.
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This in the same month that we are being forced to abandon perfectly good, working planning software in favour of another that doesn't work, isn't user friendly and holds less data. And I haven't even mentioned the keeping of receipts and downright penny-pinching that is an imprest these days.
To those who think we are petty to consider leaving over this-it is not the point that we are that bothered about uniform; it is that we can hardly believe the leadership has nothing better to concentrate on in such dire times. My section is 35% undermanned at the moment-what tiny amount of flexibility we have is now totally destroyed by a possible last minute crew replacement being in the wrong dress....Still, glad that the SWO has so little to do that a draft change to SROs was published before lunch.
If CAS reads this-WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING? TRYING TO PI$$ US OFF? Good luck to you sir, you have lost the plot.
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Haven't seen the IBN because I'm not at work, but does it suggest any reason why this is a good idea?
And, as an aside, can anyone name any other air force in the world, anywhere, that makes its aircrew change uniforms like this?
And, as an aside, can anyone name any other air force in the world, anywhere, that makes its aircrew change uniforms like this?