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Old 2nd September 2008, 02:40   #1 (permalink)
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The Sun Military Awards

Ministry of Defence | Defence News | People In Defence | MOD teams up with The Sun to launch military awards

Nominate for a Millies Award | The Sun |News

What is wrong with the notion of recieving a medal for going the extra mile?

Are we really going to start handing out gongs on the basis of text message voting?

Who knows, maybe it will increase awareness?

It even has the backing of the PoW!

Charles: Why I back The Millies | The Sun |News|Campaigns|Our Boys

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Old 2nd September 2008, 08:47   #2 (permalink)
 
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Will there be a Golden Envelope?

"And the winner is...."

For God's sake!

Two words come to mind.

1. Sun

2. Tacky
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Old 2nd September 2008, 09:54   #3 (permalink)
 
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And what do you win?????
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Old 2nd September 2008, 09:58   #4 (permalink)
 
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My nominations:

Support to the Armed Forces: CGS
Best Airman: my desk officer (can't hurt!)
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Old 2nd September 2008, 11:40   #5 (permalink)
 
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Do we get to vote people out of MOD Main building?
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Originally Posted by mileandahalf
Sorry LBGR, I've missed your point (Don't come back at me like I'm having a go, I'm not).

Seems like a fair idea aimed at furthering public awareness of the UK military.
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For God's sake!

Two words come to mind.

1. Sun

2. Tacky
Its pretty much that, its seems a little tacky, and I don't really understand the point of it. Yes I do see how it could raise awarness however, a) do we not already have a way of rewardi
ng meritorious service and b) there are surely better ways of raising awarness than a national vote.

Surely those who vote will already have an understading of the forces anyway.

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Old 2nd September 2008, 13:43   #7 (permalink)
 
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All seems a bit self serving in favour of the Sun to me. Bet the winner gets photo'ed with 2 x bare breasted beauties with Sun backdrop. I bet it's more about selling papers than supporting the troops.

Spoof Cold War Headline::

Its World War Three So Spot the Bomb and Win A Mini In The SUN Tomorrow.
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Old 2nd September 2008, 13:53   #8 (permalink)
 
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I didn't see the point until the Adjutant posted, but...

Would our soldiers, sailors and airmen (let's leave the female members aside for the moment) prefer a medal or an award from the Sun that gives them the chance to cuddle up to a couple of half naked models

Hmm this may be more popular than I thought at first.

And returning to the ladies I am sure the Sun will dig out some chippendale look alikes
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Old 2nd September 2008, 16:33   #9 (permalink)
 
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Thank you, Adj.

My point exactly. All about selling 'papers.

Hey, maybe we could all play Sun Bingo whilst filling in the nomination forms and, at the same time, enjoy a week's holiday for £5 at Pontins or Butlitz while quaffing our free 2 cans of lager free in this weeks Sun. (Just collect 5 tokens).

If The Sun wanted to do something serious, why not get Rupert M to put his hand in his pocket and sponsor Headley Court or something for the H for H Charity.

Sun Medals. Pish!!!

Tacky, just Tacky!.
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Old 4th September 2008, 17:36   #10 (permalink)
 
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It seems a bit pointless as we already have an operational honours list, using testimony from the chain of command and colleagues to secure an award for bravery.

The risk is that if a SUN recipient has not got a gong, pressure will then be brought to bear by same paper for MoD to award a formal one (SUN headline "MoD refuses to honour 'Our Boys'!")

I agree; it's just tacky and demeans the formal awards already issued to Beharry and other deserving GC MM etc recipients.

MoD should be avoiding this at all costs, not cosying up to Mr Murdoch and helping to line his pockets.

Sorry for the rant - long day!
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Old 5th September 2008, 14:37   #11 (permalink)
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I agree, thats the Op list. Maybe a better petition would be 'the I screw the forces about' award - hotels that don't let forces in or shops that don't let uniform(forces) in?
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Old 5th September 2008, 16:19   #12 (permalink)
 
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It would be a much better idea for the Current Bun to make awards to those at home who support the Armed Forces.

Highlight those businesses that offer support, discounts, charitible donations and the like.
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Old 5th September 2008, 23:22   #13 (permalink)
 
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...and here we have RAF Cpl Wayne Kerr who has just returned from battling the Taliban in Afghanistan and has been awarded the Sun Highest International Testimonial. He can't wait to wear it after 18 year-old stunner Kadie from Aylesbury has had her hands on it....

Good, eh? Just what's needed, I am sure.
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Old 6th September 2008, 00:14   #14 (permalink)

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Tacky, tacky tacky!

How best to cheapen the actions of servicemen and support throughout the world!

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The awards, the brainchild of His Royal Highness The Prince of Wales, present an opportunity for the public to recognise some of the excellent work and achievements of our people.
Don't we already have an awards/honours system in this country?

I guess it saves Buck House having to have those military types coming in and messing up the carpets when they used to go in for VCs, GCs, DSOs, CGCs, GMs, DSCs, MCs, DFCs, AFC, QGMs, MiDs, QCBs, QCBAs, OoBs, GBEs, KBEs, DBEs, CBEs, OBEs, MBEs, RRCs, ARRCs, QCVSs.

Are the people who run that hotel in Woking behind all of this?

Now all the servicemen need do is turn up at the Suns party and get presented a 'Millie' from whoever needs a bit of publicity for their new book/record/play/show etc. All based on a public vote by those who haven't a clue what is going on with British Forces around the World, except for a few selected stories published in a tabloid newspaper, called by British servicemen, "The Scum".

Heaven forbid that an award from your country, presented by The Queen would would be reward enough for your actions.





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SALUTE the very best and tell us who our uniformed champions are in the The Sun Military Awards — to be known as The Millies.
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The categories are as follows:

• Best Recruit
• Support to the Armed Forces
• Life Saver Award
• True Grit: Individual
• True Grit: Group
• Best Armed Forces Animal
• Most Outstanding Sailor or Marine
• Most Outstanding Soldier
• Most Outstanding Airman
• Overcoming Adversity
• Best Unit
• Judge's Award for Special Recognition (not open to public nomination)
In more detail;

1. Best Recruit
For a young recruit, of any rank and service, who has demonstrated outstanding potential in initial training.

2. Support to the Armed Forces
The winner of this award will be a civilian - a civil servant, a contractor or just an ordinary member of the public - who has provided invaluable help to the Armed Forces.

3. Life Saver Award
For a service individual, whether a member of the medical chain or not, who has performed an extraordinary life-saving act.

4. True Grit: Individual
For an individual serviceman or woman who has performed a single act of true grit - through courage, determination or self-sacrifice – be it on or off duty.

5. True Grit: Group
For a small unit or group of men or women from any service who have together performed a single act of true grit - through courage, determination or self-sacrifice – be it on or off duty.

6. Best Armed Forces Animal
For the most remarkable service from a service animal; to recognize the vital role of animals in the forces; on operations, during ceremonial duties or at home.

7. Most Outstanding Sailor or Marine
For the individual who has made the most outstanding contribution to the Royal Navy or Royal Marines over the past year.

8. Most Outstanding Soldier
For the individual who has made the most outstanding contribution to the Army over the past year.

9. Most Outstanding Airman
For the individual who has made the most outstanding contribution to the RAF over the last year.

10. Overcoming Adversity
To recognize individuals who have suffered injury or illness, and yet have overcome their significant difficulties with fortitude.

11. Best Unit
The winner of this award can either be a major or minor unit that has excelled consistently over the year, for example with notable achievements on an operational deployment.

12. Judge’s Award for Special Recognition (not open to public nomination)
For outstanding service by an individual or group, and not recognized elsewhere. The judging panel will determine the winner of this award, therefore it is not open for public nomination.
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Old 6th September 2008, 00:24   #15 (permalink)

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Would LCPL Beharry VC have received the Millie 'Lifesaver Award' for his actions instead of the Victoria Cross?


Makes me angry knowing that the actions of any of my own friends/ex-colleagues, in fact any member of British Forces, can have their bravery, self sacrifice, injuries and other actions, trivialised by a newspaper hoping for more sales with a cheap stunt.

Why on Earth is the MoD behind this?

(Yes, it was a long day)
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