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Old 19th August 2008, 21:51   #1 (permalink)
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From MoD Truth Central, yesterday, ( http://defenceintranet.diiweb.r.mil....fghanistan.htm );

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Latest UAV spreads its wings in southern Afghanistan
18/08/2008

UK troops are using a new tactical Unmanned Aerial Vehicle (UAV) to patrol
the skies of the Upper Sangin Valley in southern Afghanistan, helping to
identify enemy threats and protect soldiers as they go about their work.

Launched and operated by gunners from 1 Battery, 47 Regiment Royal
Artillery, the Desert Hawk III is one of many assets that are employed to
help seek out enemy fighters and one of the newest UAVs that the Royal
Artillery use. The UAV provides an over-watch capability for soldiers
patrolling from Forward Operating Base (FOB) Inkerman near Sangin.

Traditionally 32 Regt RA were the only regiment in the Army that operated
these unmanned aircraft, but to ease the operational commitment, 47 Regt
have been tasked with flying the new equipment. Lance Bombardier Ricky
Talbot explained:

"It is a mini UAV; it provides reconnaissance for the FOB and over
looks patrols. If the FOB wants us to check any vulnerable points or firing
points we can easily check them with the Desert Hawk."

The Desert Hawk can be launched by just throwing it into the wind, but the
gunners have learnt that for the best take off it is best to gain speed
before launching and so they launch it from the back of a quad bike. The UAV
flies itself by inputting a route onto a digital map and a GPS within the
aircraft follows that route. An operator can also fly the UAV using a simple
games console hand controller.

At the end of a flight, the reconnaissance vehicle lands itself and, when it
hits the ground, intentionally breaks into nine parts to minimise the stress
on the aircraft. Different payloads can be bolted onto the UAV which gives
the user alternative cameras and views to look at. The footage can be viewed
live on the screen of a conventional laptop and also recorded to allow
playback to commanders.

British Paratroopers from B Company 2 Para, who are operating in the Upper
Sangin Valley, patrol the local area. Patrolling is intense and dangerous
with an 80 per cent chance of the patrols coming under attack from enemy
forces which can be as close as 30m away. The Operating Base and its men
play a vital role in stopping Taliban fighters moving up and down the Sangin
Valley.
So simple, the dropshorts can use it and for the infanteer, it even breaks itself!

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Old 19th August 2008, 22:09   #2 (permalink)
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I thought you said unmanned flight.

It is perfectly clear that the hescos will arrest the quad bike allowing the pillon passenger, hanging on to the aircraft, to exit the compound cleanly for infiltration behind enemy lines.

All you would need is 60 or so quad bikes and you could launch an entire Herc load.
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Old 19th August 2008, 23:08   #3 (permalink)
 
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At the end of a flight, the reconnaissance vehicle lands itself and, when it
hits the ground, intentionally breaks into nine parts to minimise the stress
on the aircraft
How will todays modern youth with 99 GCSE A** manage to count up to nine to ensure they have recovered all the pieces?
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Old 20th August 2008, 00:14   #4 (permalink)
 
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How will todays modern youth with 99 GCSE A** manage to count up to nine to ensure they have recovered all the pieces?
I say... That's a tad cynical... They can have a finger cut off and then just match the number of bits to the number of fingers... Sorted...
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Old 20th August 2008, 09:49   #5 (permalink)
 
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There are plenty of modern yoof risking more than a cut finger in hot and sandy places right now!
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Old 20th August 2008, 12:20   #6 (permalink)
 
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What's the betting that they'll put wings on the quad?


Edited to add

Put the same controls on the quad and the days of manned vehicle patrols will be over ?

Yes, I know there are all sorts of remote control vehicles
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Old 20th August 2008, 12:42   #7 (permalink)

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ISTR that the last time they let Gunners play with aerial conveyences we ended up with 1(F) Troop.
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Old 25th August 2008, 16:11   #8 (permalink)
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You have to love that launching technique. Maybe we need a catapult?

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