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RAF Pilot Entry statistics
Hi there. I am just curious; does anybody know what the average ratio of applicants to acceptances is for becoming a Pilot in the RAF in the past few years?
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From personal experience.
As long as your eyes go bad after half way through course ($$$ remember) and you can be corrected back to 6/6 vision, then you can get corrective glasses/contacts. You had to join with 6/6 and experience degradation later.
Not sure of current policy but this was applicable a few years back.
Re-iterate RG's post. There are 2 laser surgery techniques and one of them disqualifies you for life IIRC. The other technique is allowed after RAAF Medical approval.
HTH
As long as your eyes go bad after half way through course ($$$ remember) and you can be corrected back to 6/6 vision, then you can get corrective glasses/contacts. You had to join with 6/6 and experience degradation later.
Not sure of current policy but this was applicable a few years back.
Re-iterate RG's post. There are 2 laser surgery techniques and one of them disqualifies you for life IIRC. The other technique is allowed after RAAF Medical approval.
HTH
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slim, how would that do you? Given FJ slots at about 24 per year and all branch presentation at 30 per week!
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Eyes
I know a bloke who started pilots course with glasses.
From what I know (which is not with any authority!!) they want 20/20 when you join. Can go bad the following day so long as it's correctable with glasses to 20/20.
If you have bad eyes to begin with, appeal all the way up and you may get a nod. The theory is they get enough applicants with good eyes so why bother with the others. Appeal to DG Air Force Health (is he still called this) , then when he says no (and he will) to SGADF (Surgeon General -ADF), then when he says no (and he most probably will ), Dear Minister..
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From what I know (which is not with any authority!!) they want 20/20 when you join. Can go bad the following day so long as it's correctable with glasses to 20/20.
If you have bad eyes to begin with, appeal all the way up and you may get a nod. The theory is they get enough applicants with good eyes so why bother with the others. Appeal to DG Air Force Health (is he still called this) , then when he says no (and he will) to SGADF (Surgeon General -ADF), then when he says no (and he most probably will ), Dear Minister..
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I dont know about the RAF, but the RAAF ratio of applicants to badged FJ pilots is around the order of 1:750.
As the ADF as a whole, all pilots positions to applicants is around 1:90
I cant remember where I have heard these numbers been thrown about so I am happy to be corrected.
As the ADF as a whole, all pilots positions to applicants is around 1:90
I cant remember where I have heard these numbers been thrown about so I am happy to be corrected.
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Just finished OSB,
Not Yet 18 was the verdict (come back in 18 months). Happy with the result and will try again.
Cheers to everyone who posted on this thread. I now understand why it all has to be kept under wraps....
Peach
Not Yet 18 was the verdict (come back in 18 months). Happy with the result and will try again.
Cheers to everyone who posted on this thread. I now understand why it all has to be kept under wraps....
Peach
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Hey FastJetz,
It all depends who you speak to, unfortunately. I found not all the medical staff were aware of the latest adjustments when I was researching, and I'd imagine it would be hard to be. But there were some fantastic people who went all out to help me. (And some not so fantastic who couldn't be bothered, and one in particular who referred me to the wrong type of surgery being the only type allowed!!)
I can't give you all the specific references as I'm...well....on the other side of the globe at the moment, but I think Health Bulletin 11/02 was one of them, regarding laser eye surgery. There was another one regarding visual acuity that you may find in an old thread titled "Glasses in the RAAF" or something similar. And some medical staff actually handed me an actual refractive surgery summary page for applicants (not comprehensive), but it all takes a bit of asking around.
To the best of my knowledge, it is now 6/12 uncorrected, but there are also dioptre limits. If you exceed those, then PRK is allowed, not LASIK. LASEK, a form of PRK, is also allowed. But there are requirements pre- and post-op that you must fulfil. Feel free to PM with any more specific questions, and I'll do what I can when I get home in a few weeks. But once again, the moral to everyone's story is to double check/make sure of everything yourself. Especially as the rules have been quite fluid with such changes lately.
When I was at OSB toward the end of last year, the Wing Commander said there was one guy who had gone through with laser surgery before me (mind you I hadn't conducted surgery yet, as I appealed to sit FSP/OSB first), so I suppose I'm the second. Now I've done the surgery, waited the 3 months post-op, and my file is sitting somewhere in Canberra waiting to be medically cleared. It's a long process mate. But if you want it enough....
Cheers and Good Luck
It all depends who you speak to, unfortunately. I found not all the medical staff were aware of the latest adjustments when I was researching, and I'd imagine it would be hard to be. But there were some fantastic people who went all out to help me. (And some not so fantastic who couldn't be bothered, and one in particular who referred me to the wrong type of surgery being the only type allowed!!)
I can't give you all the specific references as I'm...well....on the other side of the globe at the moment, but I think Health Bulletin 11/02 was one of them, regarding laser eye surgery. There was another one regarding visual acuity that you may find in an old thread titled "Glasses in the RAAF" or something similar. And some medical staff actually handed me an actual refractive surgery summary page for applicants (not comprehensive), but it all takes a bit of asking around.
To the best of my knowledge, it is now 6/12 uncorrected, but there are also dioptre limits. If you exceed those, then PRK is allowed, not LASIK. LASEK, a form of PRK, is also allowed. But there are requirements pre- and post-op that you must fulfil. Feel free to PM with any more specific questions, and I'll do what I can when I get home in a few weeks. But once again, the moral to everyone's story is to double check/make sure of everything yourself. Especially as the rules have been quite fluid with such changes lately.
When I was at OSB toward the end of last year, the Wing Commander said there was one guy who had gone through with laser surgery before me (mind you I hadn't conducted surgery yet, as I appealed to sit FSP/OSB first), so I suppose I'm the second. Now I've done the surgery, waited the 3 months post-op, and my file is sitting somewhere in Canberra waiting to be medically cleared. It's a long process mate. But if you want it enough....
Cheers and Good Luck
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Cheers Peach, sorry to hear you didn't get through straight away, but persistance is the key, right? I got knocked back firt time outright. This time they didn't seem to care about that...
Here's hoping, anyway!
Happy trails
Here's hoping, anyway!
Happy trails
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Here are some fairly accurate figures.
Applicants for officer - all branches - 12,000 per year of whom 7,000 apply for pilot.
3,000 actually get to OASC of whom 1,200 are wanabees.
Of the pilot applicants there are 80 slots.
So work out the appropriate ratio. Even the best works out at 1:15.
Applicants for officer - all branches - 12,000 per year of whom 7,000 apply for pilot.
3,000 actually get to OASC of whom 1,200 are wanabees.
Of the pilot applicants there are 80 slots.
So work out the appropriate ratio. Even the best works out at 1:15.
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GA flying for mil aircrew
G'day Mate,
I did Point Cook way back when on 52 Army Pilot Basic Course. After 56 APBC, it moved to Tamworth... so the PSA course is foreign to me... but the stress and style isn't.
As for GA flying, I guess we all have an interest in it, but don't often have the time to take advantage of it. What's more, after flying very capable and battle worthy aircraft (for the most part), jumping into a GA lightie seems to be more bother than it's worth... until you actually do it and then you remember how much fun it is (except for the part about paying the bill at the end of the flight.)
My background is Black Hawk and Chinook, but I recently did my FWMECIR and NVFR and CPL etc, etc. It was quite a change to go from a multi-crew environment to single pilot ops again. It was more challenging than I remember... but like I said, lots of fun.
Good luck for your return to TW. Check out the website at www.ipas.com.au for some images.
CB
I did Point Cook way back when on 52 Army Pilot Basic Course. After 56 APBC, it moved to Tamworth... so the PSA course is foreign to me... but the stress and style isn't.
As for GA flying, I guess we all have an interest in it, but don't often have the time to take advantage of it. What's more, after flying very capable and battle worthy aircraft (for the most part), jumping into a GA lightie seems to be more bother than it's worth... until you actually do it and then you remember how much fun it is (except for the part about paying the bill at the end of the flight.)
My background is Black Hawk and Chinook, but I recently did my FWMECIR and NVFR and CPL etc, etc. It was quite a change to go from a multi-crew environment to single pilot ops again. It was more challenging than I remember... but like I said, lots of fun.
Good luck for your return to TW. Check out the website at www.ipas.com.au for some images.
CB
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We only played tennis once, cos it rained practically the whole two weeks! Played lots of table tennis though. Went go-karting, went to the Impy a few times, and we went flying every now and then too...
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Australian Army Recruitment
Does anyone know if the Australian Army are still recruiting Chinook pilots?
I know they were after people over the last couple of years, but what does the future hold for recruitment?
Also what are they after in terms of experience?
Can anyone answer? Just wanting to keep my options open..........Many thanks!
EnnArr
I know they were after people over the last couple of years, but what does the future hold for recruitment?
Also what are they after in terms of experience?
Can anyone answer? Just wanting to keep my options open..........Many thanks!
EnnArr
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Bit worried that PMA website has a link to RAAF 'crossover' - are they trying to tell us something?
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back again..
Well it's approaching 12 months since my pilot specific test. Last time I wasn't recommended for Pilot - in addition to not meeting eyesight requirements after seeing an ophthalmologist. I'll probably call them soon and see if any requirements have been reduced.
Anyway, I've been doing aerobatic training and I'm on my way to a CPL. Next year I'll complete my Bach. Aerospace Eng and hopefully start work in flight test engineering and end up a test pilot - but who knows!
I'd love to fly in the RAAF, but the likelihood of that happening is slowly drifting away...
I wanted to ask if anyone knew the specific differences between civil and military training?
Good luck to everyone who's got the bug!
Oh and you too can fly a fast jet to the edge of space: http://www.incredible-adventures.com/edgeofspace.html
Anyway, I've been doing aerobatic training and I'm on my way to a CPL. Next year I'll complete my Bach. Aerospace Eng and hopefully start work in flight test engineering and end up a test pilot - but who knows!
I'd love to fly in the RAAF, but the likelihood of that happening is slowly drifting away...
I wanted to ask if anyone knew the specific differences between civil and military training?
Good luck to everyone who's got the bug!
Oh and you too can fly a fast jet to the edge of space: http://www.incredible-adventures.com/edgeofspace.html
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Can anyone give me some more information regarding the "team building" and "leadership" excercises for OSB at Tamworth.
I've been waiting about a month to get on the 2 wk course.
Cheers
PS I take it I should pack a tennis racquet as well
I've been waiting about a month to get on the 2 wk course.
Cheers
PS I take it I should pack a tennis racquet as well