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Old 21st Feb 2007, 15:06   #1 (permalink)
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Typhoon in Las Vegas

Have just been sent this picture, Typhoon landing in sin city Las Vegas...

<img border="0" src="http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/4637/eftinvegaszi6.jpg" width="320" height="215">

I read that its there for the Red Flag trials - can anyone shed any more light??
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Old 21st Feb 2007, 22:31   #2 (permalink)
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I can tell you where it's not.

Iraq
Afghanistan
Anywhere of any military use other than airshows
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Old 21st Feb 2007, 22:34   #3 (permalink)
 
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BFM with the F-22 at Nellis.


I Wonder who will win?
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Old 21st Feb 2007, 22:38   #4 (permalink)
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LJR

My money is on anything not concieved in the eighties and built by europeans.
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Old 22nd Feb 2007, 09:41   #5 (permalink)
 
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My money is on anything flown by the RAF.........anything at all.
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Old 22nd Feb 2007, 14:41   #6 (permalink)
 
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wokkameister said: My money is on anything not concieved in the eighties and built by europeans.

Typhoon
Conceived 1983, First Flight 1986, First operational sorties, the Italian aircraft for the Turin Winter Olympics 2006.

F22
Conceived 1981, First Flight 1990.

So by your theory the F22 will lose, except of course it was not built by Europeans.
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Old 22nd Feb 2007, 19:58   #7 (permalink)
 
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I can tell you where it's not.

Iraq
Afghanistan
Anywhere of any military use other than airshows


You got that right.

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Old 22nd Feb 2007, 20:02   #8 (permalink)
 
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Typhoon - World Tour

SH - Everywhere else with no Glamour or Hotels or rates
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Old 22nd Feb 2007, 20:31   #9 (permalink)
 
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Wonder if Glen T will pop out for a trip and a pic?
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Old 22nd Feb 2007, 21:07   #10 (permalink)
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Banter aside, The strength is in the person not the machine, so I have to agree with Zoom. Still think Typhoon a horrendous waste of money when the AT/SH and JFH so stretched.
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Wockameister & mojocvh, I suppose you said/agreed the same thing about the Tornado in 1982 during the Falklands Conflict. The decision to produce and purchase the Typhoon was done long before Bliar and cronies got us into the mess we are in now. You also know that it is to late to cancel the last manned fighter aircraft that the RAF will ever have (unless it buys american left overs) and you should be aware that it will cost the tax payer a damm site more to cancel than to keep, additionally even if the aircraft was cancelled no money would end up being used for AT/SH and JFH or any other military use.
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Old 22nd Feb 2007, 21:22   #12 (permalink)
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Rigger, you seem convinced in your argument and I respect that. My view is we have hangers full of jets with very little purpose. With regard to the Tornado, that was during the cold war when we expected Ivan to drop in at anytime. Different scenario, no matter how the terrorism threat is spun from Whitehall
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wokkameister, thanks I think, I mentioned the Falklands because it was a war and the Tornado was in the same position as the Typhoon is now i.e. a new aircraft not combat useable in a current conflict and I do remember people saying the same thing about the Tornado at the time.
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Old 22nd Feb 2007, 21:43   #14 (permalink)
 
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You are making a lot of assumptions there.
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Old 22nd Feb 2007, 21:47   #15 (permalink)
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Good news about the Typhoon standing up in the air-air role. I've been worried about the Taliban Air Force for a while now.
Will it be able to defend us from all airborne threats, such as A10 etc?
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Well i'd like to see a Chinook doing QRA 24/7 like the Typhoon will be doing this year or do you think that's a waste of time too!!
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Old 22nd Feb 2007, 22:09   #17 (permalink)
 
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Does stand up mean "almost there" in an operational sense apart from some contractural issues outwith the control of the RAF?
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Old 22nd Feb 2007, 22:12   #18 (permalink)
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Sorry, but how many aircraft do you need for QRF?
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We need loads because there's no spares for them!! Ring's a bell with all a/c types in the RAF these days I would imagine
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What do you mean "these days"? (from a former rob king of the RAF cira 1982)
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