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Old 26th Mar 2006, 20:37   #1 (permalink)
 
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RAF JPA Rollout

Any first thoughts? Good or Bad? How will the other services find it?
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Old 26th Mar 2006, 20:42   #2 (permalink)
 
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Hi Gang;

I wish I could play....

The RAF rollout on 20 March has not yet reached the plebians...
Only the demi-gods of the 'House of Handbrake' are allowed to play.

Hell...I aint even dont the compulsory training package yet...

Is it worth me moaning about the allowances backed up from Jan yet???

More Later;
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Old 26th Mar 2006, 21:20   #3 (permalink)
 
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If I had the choice of doing the JPA training package again or having battery acid poured into my eyes from a great height...........................I'd go for the battery acid every time!!!!!!!
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Old 27th Mar 2006, 00:27   #4 (permalink)
 
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Question

We'll tell you in four days' time when we've been paid...
...or not
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Old 27th Mar 2006, 01:43   #5 (permalink)
 
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i tried to get a password on wednesday last, after being told they (it types) couldnt give them out until JPA had rolled out, only to be told i cant get 1 until the 6th april!

why oh why oh why do people fix things for the sake of it?!?! yes PSF was rubbish, but it was open most days unless it was sports afternoon or training day or force developement day....... hang on........ *bashes head against wall*........ ok so JPA is probably goiing to be better! tell ya on 6th april!!
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Old 27th Mar 2006, 06:07   #6 (permalink)
 
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Personally had a nightmare so far
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Old 27th Mar 2006, 09:23   #7 (permalink)
 
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I am (WAS!) planning leave 1 - 6 April. Not allowed on JPA yet, paper leave applications defunct WEF 1 April. Do I leave the "Application for Authorised Absence" in top drawer and fill JPA AFTER said absence.???
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Old 27th Mar 2006, 10:40   #8 (permalink)
 
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I've left mine with the Boss JIC someone thinks I'm skiving (fat chance)
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Old 27th Mar 2006, 11:49   #9 (permalink)
 
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Anyone have any clue as to what the rates are?

Off to the states but can't see where in the JSP752 that it lists what I can spend on meals.

I'd hate to not eat enough

PSF is the obvious answer but they have locked down "due to JPA"!!!

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Old 27th Mar 2006, 13:12   #10 (permalink)
 
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JPA paper forms do still exist for when individuals can't access the system or calll the JPAC EC. Your Chief Clerk should have the forms. If not they are on the Knowledge base on the AFPAA Info Centre on INTRANET.
Re; rates, I believe that the main AT stations are still going to issue FSI for the forseable future as capped actuals are cleary unworkable for these staions and their crews.
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Old 27th Mar 2006, 13:27   #11 (permalink)
 
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JPA ing ats
JPA 'down' (great title for a blunt book) all over the world, no paper back up and told that my disturbance allowance has been reduced by a third as a result of the new 'one-size-fits-all system", because "you is only entitled to the same as the enlisted filth now sah". Is it me, or was that little gem hidden in the small print?
JPA Junkie
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Old 27th Mar 2006, 13:58   #12 (permalink)
 
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mrwickets

The balancing of disturbance allowance was not a funtion of JPA, it was an exercise to cut the cake more appropriately. If you're unhappy with your lot you shouldn't have done so well at skool should you? Anyway, my understanding was that it's not a cut but a standstill until us erks catch up (which seasonally adjusted and allowing for inflation could, I know, be seen as a cut I suppose)
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Old 27th Mar 2006, 14:00   #13 (permalink)
 
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Grimweasel

They might well still run FSIs; that is still an option. However, the allowance rates will still be the same capped actuals. The overseas rates are not in JSP752 because thay are declared each month by Directed Letter from the Allowances Policy people.

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Old 27th Mar 2006, 14:03   #14 (permalink)
 
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Endplay

The married Officer rates of DA were cut to align with the ORs rates. The manoey generated pays for elements of DA for those who would not previously have been entitled at all. That is where the different cutting of the cake has applied. All DA rates could go up or down in future, but the hint is that down is more likely than up.

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Old 27th Mar 2006, 15:18   #15 (permalink)
 
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Ginseng - Ahhh thank you ...
Endplay - Didn't do well at skool; just a JT having a laugh and nobody's found out yet
Well, they hadn't until now
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Old 27th Mar 2006, 16:17   #16 (permalink)
 
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I'm on det now and it goes over the planned start of the new rates on JPA. I have no idea how much I am allowed after the 1st of April as the capped actuals rate was not available when I left. I get the feeling I'm going to get stiffed and may never be properly reimbursed. Thats progress!!
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Old 27th Mar 2006, 16:41   #17 (permalink)
 
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The rates thing is FUBAR'd. Questions have been asked by fellow Ivory Tower residents about things like Missed Meals when attending mtgs in Town. No good answer really. 'They' have no damned idea.

Possibly the worst-introduced IT system this century??
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Old 27th Mar 2006, 18:33   #18 (permalink)
 
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Wink JPA training package

In case anyone was wondering you can just enrol yourself on the ‘Training Package’ then exit and tick complete.....

At the end of the day how hard can it be...

Stand By for incoming Blunty Noise!!!
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Old 27th Mar 2006, 20:22   #19 (permalink)
 
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We'll get paid this month as it was done by the old system before they pulled the plug. It's April we need to worry about. Apparently though, we should all keep a month's pay in reserve, so that's OK then!
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Old 27th Mar 2006, 21:01   #20 (permalink)
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I understand that JPA will stop you filing a post-date leave pass. boo boom.

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I am (WAS!) planning leave 1 - 6 April. Not allowed on JPA yet, paper leave applications defunct WEF 1 April. Do I leave the "Application for Authorised Absence" in top drawer and fill JPA AFTER said absence.???
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