B-52 bombs Blackbushe
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Oh dear, this is all getting a touch serious. We've all dropped the odd bollock, intentionally or not. The trick is in how you see yourself, how your boss sees you, but more importantly, how everybody else sees you.
In this case, the world and his wife saw the small object falling, hence the banter. Mind you, Farnborough is only every two years, so a new GPS, a let-down chart, an I-SPY world atlas and a new crew should see us OK for 2006.
In this case, the world and his wife saw the small object falling, hence the banter. Mind you, Farnborough is only every two years, so a new GPS, a let-down chart, an I-SPY world atlas and a new crew should see us OK for 2006.
No one talks about the USS Reuben James either....sunk by a U-Boat while escorting a convoy eastbound...well before the war officially began for us...but then this discussion has been had numerous times here with the same results. I am just glad that my side can muddle through when we do get around to it. But, there are some parties to this thread that would never give credit to but one side.
As to the WWII comment made about Pearl Harbor, its subjective isn't it? It started earlier than 1 Sept of 39 if you were one of the countries sacrificed as an appeasement to Hitler. Remember that as you pontificate as if Britain's entry marks the real kickoff of events. For someone from one of the countries that fell in the earlier years they might find a chuckle from your comment.
As to the thread, no I am not sensitive. I simply dislike hypocrisy masquerading as dry humor.
As to the thread, no I am not sensitive. I simply dislike hypocrisy masquerading as dry humor.
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"As to the thread, no I am not sensitive. I simply dislike hypocrisy masquerading as dry humor"
Most of it's irony and a whole heap of "self flaj" which is something I have noticed over my 30 years service our country cousins have problems grasping
chill out dude
all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced
"As to the thread, no I am not sensitive. I simply dislike hypocrisy masquerading as dry humor"
Most of it's irony and a whole heap of "self flaj" which is something I have noticed over my 30 years service our country cousins have problems grasping
chill out dude
all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced
Many good observations made. When these threads run for a few or more pages, some folks are too lazy, or tired, to read much. Maybe they often read just the first page, barely skimming over later pages which finally suggest human (most importantly, fellow countrymens' 
) imperfections. Subtleties can appear to be different things to different people and often do not sink in at all. Subtleties are usually ignored by people who can only understand clear results.
That story of the two younger fighter types in the pub who were so full of themselves was excellent. Ironically, I flew recently, more than once, with the guy who many years ago set the official speed record in the SR-71 (former F-4 Instructor and later G-III pilot at Andrews), and he is the quietest, most humble guy with whom I've ever flown, or known. Well, when one lives on an island, some 'ugly Americans' can surface when overseas, but many of us are aware of the old stereotype and try to somehow overcompensate when we travel.
As for the 'frontier mentality', it was not that long ago-you might still need it in most parts of Alaska.
) imperfections. Subtleties can appear to be different things to different people and often do not sink in at all. Subtleties are usually ignored by people who can only understand clear results.That story of the two younger fighter types in the pub who were so full of themselves was excellent. Ironically, I flew recently, more than once, with the guy who many years ago set the official speed record in the SR-71 (former F-4 Instructor and later G-III pilot at Andrews), and he is the quietest, most humble guy with whom I've ever flown, or known. Well, when one lives on an island, some 'ugly Americans' can surface when overseas, but many of us are aware of the old stereotype and try to somehow overcompensate when we travel.
As for the 'frontier mentality', it was not that long ago-you might still need it in most parts of Alaska.
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Sorry to drag it back to the topic but the following might be worth a read as the other side of the story:
".... the ATC gents decided to vector them and they followed, knowing they were being put out of position. When they were 2 miles from the approach end 3 miles to the left they were cleared for their "hard right turn to line up"! This obviously was not doable and they flew a safe path. The ATC gents now know a B-52 cannot pull 5 g's to overfly a runway full of spectators. The situation has been resolved and they have made their fly-by's on time and target since. "
*With acknowledgement and respect to the gent from whose e-mail the above was borrowed. Sorry mate, you should know LNOs are sneaky.
So, a less than favorable situation, good airmanship, no harm, no foul.
".... the ATC gents decided to vector them and they followed, knowing they were being put out of position. When they were 2 miles from the approach end 3 miles to the left they were cleared for their "hard right turn to line up"! This obviously was not doable and they flew a safe path. The ATC gents now know a B-52 cannot pull 5 g's to overfly a runway full of spectators. The situation has been resolved and they have made their fly-by's on time and target since. "
*With acknowledgement and respect to the gent from whose e-mail the above was borrowed. Sorry mate, you should know LNOs are sneaky.
So, a less than favorable situation, good airmanship, no harm, no foul.
The frontier does not start in Alaska....Montana, Idaho, and Washington all have some pretty interesting places....you can be walking out to you helicopter to preflight and meet a Grizzly Bear...a critter that sits atop the food chain unless you are toting a large firearm.
B1 bombs Old Sarum
1330 Sat, B-1 over flies Old Sarum not much above circuit height; presumably on route (still attempting to find) Farnborough. Definitely not in the Boscombe circuit.
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That's interesting, Safetypee. A little earlier a B1, also at display height (my judgement having seen it at F'boro on Tuesday) overflew me around 20 miles south south west of LGW heading roughly south. Bet it upset the Parham gliders!
Lots of "heavies" at FAB yesterday - really nice job by "Timmy Formation" (T* & VC10) and, as for the spiral climbout by the Springbok 744 -
A340-600 spectacular aswell, but we're used to what they do at airshows now!
A340-600 spectacular aswell, but we're used to what they do at airshows now!
"Old Sarum?.... Ah, shee-hit. CIA spooks bin tellin' us to bomb Saddam; guess that sumbitch computer had a spellin' error for that target...."
I do sometimes wonder at the pre-flight navigation preparation of some of our colonial chums. Ever since I help direct the attention of the visiting presidential Mreenkaw support helicopter pilots to the rules for flying from where they were to where they were going. They were expecting just to be able to go in a straight line, expecting ATC priority. Just like home.....
I do sometimes wonder at the pre-flight navigation preparation of some of our colonial chums. Ever since I help direct the attention of the visiting presidential Mreenkaw support helicopter pilots to the rules for flying from where they were to where they were going. They were expecting just to be able to go in a straight line, expecting ATC priority. Just like home.....
