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Hundreds of military personnel are to move to Lincolnshire - cementing the county at the heart of the British RAF.
The Ministry of Defence intents to expand operations in Lincolnshire and is considering moving extra staff to three existing airbases.
Its aim is to centralise the RAF's support, communications and surveillance units in one area of the country.
Four action plans are being considered. They are:
To move 600 staff from RAF Brize Norton in Oxfordshire to RAF Scampton near Lincoln.
To move 1,500 staff to RAF Scampton, including the 600 from Brize Norton and others from RAF Boulmer, in Northumbria, RAF Sealand, in Cheshire, and RAF Neatishead, in Norfolk. This option would also see personnel move to RAF Coningsby, near Woodhall Spa.
To move the control and reporting centre from RAF Neatishead in Norfolk to RAF Coningsby.
To move staff from RAF Boulmer's control centre and flight school to RAF Coningsby and to move RAF Neatishead's control centre to RAF Waddington, near Lincoln.
The MoD is expected to decide which option it will pursue in the New Year and staff would be moved gradually, over the next five years.
A spokesman for the MoD said Lincolnshire was chosen for expansion because of its existing operational duties.
"The reason why Lincolnshire is being considered is because the review is about centralisation," she said.
"The RAF already has assets in Lincolnshire and it makes sense to centralise there. The whole ethos of this review is cost-effectiveness."
300 Plus on 5 Sqn Numerous Extra Mushroom Farmers.
"To move 1,500 staff to RAF Scampton, including the 600 from Brize Norton and others from RAF Boulmer, in Northumbria, RAF Sealand, in Cheshire, and RAF Neatishead, in Norfolk. This option would also see personnel move to RAF Coningsby, near Woodhall Spa."
I think you will find that RAF Boulmer is in the county of Northumberland and RAF Sealand is in the county of Flintshire.
Lincolnshire has been 'Crab' County since before WW2
In view of the exagerated price rises of real estate in the region, an MOD plot to move you lot in en-mass is clearly a cynical attempt by the government to drive the prices down. I think that the RAF should be based in Angelsey where we can't see you.
Training Risky Thanks for the subtle hint. Having been born in the place when the old man was based at Valley I ought to know how to spell it. Anyway we digress, you lot should still buggre off there. Oh and if it's you in those slingsby things flying over the vale (XU) , quit upsetting the Turkey's at the farm, I've ordered one for christmas. FEBA
Oh PLEASE stop these rumours! I escaped the cursed county of Lincs and the LAST thing we need is to re-form the Near East Air Force! Coningsby is a complete dump, the locals (and illegal immigrants) don't like us, it is too far from anywhere (have you BEEN to Skeggy?) and it smells! did I mention that it was a dump?
Lets put ALL our assets as far away from major lines of communication as possible - that is such a good idea.
With regard to the FQ's at Scampton, I would guess that somewhere near half have been sold off, and without going out and counting them that is my best estimate. FQ's at Scampton are primarily used for Scampton personnel and as overflow for Waddington, but there are also Cranwell, Digby, Conningsby and Cottesmore based personnel living here that I am aware of. Having said that, there are several quarters that are lying empty, but much money needs to be spent to make them safe and habitable.
Your question on where these extra personnel are going to live is indeed a good question. There were plans for new FQ's near Waddington, though I am not sure what the latest is on those, and DHE will need to fight the numerous builders for any available land on the south side of Lincoln.
Rumour going around these parts is that the Army are to pull out of the barracks at former RAF Kirton Lindsay, just up the road from Scampton. This would free up plenty of houses as the army also locate some of their troops at the old RAF Hemswell which is actually even closer to Scampton.
Back in 1996 when Scampton initially closed and the houses first went up for sale no one was sure what the future for the base would be, including those of us living there as overspill from Waddo. No change there then you might say. However, there was one set of individuals who seemed quite sure of its future.
Prťcis of phone call between 814man and youthful enthusiastic estate agent:
814man ďIíve heard that the houses at Scampton are good value as they have been totally refurbished with new kitchens, windows, porches and lots of other stuff that those horrible RAF types donít need. Only problem is that I donít much fancy the idea of living on a military base. Thereís the threat from terrorists to start with and as for all those noisy airplanes I just donít think that I could stand it. As Iím interesting in buying a house there can you tell me what the future of the camp is, and is there a chance that they could bring airplanes back.Ē Estate agent ďNo sir I can assure you that the RAF have no plans to ever reuse the base again. Why they would hardly be so silly as to sell all the houses off if they wanted to use it again in the future would they? You can be assured of a quiet life if you buy one of these properties.Ē
How I laughed when the Reds moved back in some 2 years later. I seriously wonder if anyone was actually taken in by this stuff?