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Old 10th Jun 2017, 10:09
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How is the blockade affecting Qatar Airways flights

Just curious what the effect is if any. Just a simple re-route with more gas required or anything else?
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Old 10th Jun 2017, 10:33
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They are certainly losing some revenue as people are rebooking to travel to the areas denied to them.

Long term effect, not much unless it's a significant time period IMHO.
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Not much? Industry article mentioned perhaps 30% loss of revenue. 15% for EK and the unnameable airline.
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Heard from friends in QR that the airport is a ghost town and loads are very light. The irony of the whole situation..
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The 15% refers to overall "fallout" effect to the region. EK effected bad bad ME press
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EK and Doha

Would it be unchivalrous to suggest that EK might actually be saving money on the route, by pulling near empty A380s off Doha....?
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It was one 380 per day right? The remainder of the flights were empty 777s? On such a short flight the cost difference would be little. So a bit of a stretch to be looking for saving here.
The bad publicity for the region will be hurting bookings.
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The 380 was quietly pulled off the DOH route at the end of March anyway.
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What about flight routing?
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All our Qatari traffic that used to route through UAE is now coming on new airways around the north of UAE on unusual tracks through Muscat airspace. It's interesting, to say the least, and our back-office staff are busily trying to make an untenable situation more manageable by investigating new routes. Unfortunately, we're struggling to cope with a situation that's been dumped on us. My advice to you is have a very good eye on TCAS over the next few weeks as we get used to these route changes and don't badger anyone in our airspace if you get sudden level changes or low cruising levels. We're doing the best we can.
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Originally Posted by Seaman Staynes
Got to admit to it being a lot quieter and easier flying around the gulf since this blew up.
Not missing all the Qatar aircraft confirming the next freq every time they changeover, missing calls and basically clogging up the airways!
But I'm sure we will all be back to normal soon ...... hope the guys at Qatar are getting some leave in... 👍🏼


Exactly!!!! I am with you on that, the radio discipline of QR crews is some of the worst I've seen in the world
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Ahhh, you haven't flown through Muscat recently. Not pleasant at the very early hours.
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QR used BRN airspace today https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/qr93#db36bfd
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QR recruits many from Latin America and SE Asia. Little displine is the norm , not only on the radio! I ask : Cant these QR guys fly NPA, raw data?
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highfive,


Why don't you check your spelling skills before you criticize R/T skills ?


And...what's " little displine " got to do with NPA's ? raw data ?


Cheers !
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Old 12th Jun 2017, 15:29
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Why don't you check your spelling skills before you criticize R/T skills ?


And...what's " little displine " got to do with NPA's ? raw data ?


Cheers !
You might check your punctuation skills. "NPA's"?

Dear me.
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Are you kidding?

Originally Posted by IBE8720
QR have lost about about 18 destinations. 9 of which are in Saudi and 1 in Bahrain, 5 in the UAE and 3 in Egypt. Saudi equates to about 18% of QR's revenue.
KWI is their biggest revenue earning route, DXB was second. So 30% would seem close to the mark. However add in the cost of diversion, and that figure would be conservative.

EY & EK have lost 1 route each. I hardly think that would equal a 15% drop in revenue. Particularly as EY had 4 or 5 flights per day and EK were flying A380's up here with 100 people on board some flights.

5 Destinations in the UAE? Really.
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Raw data NPA. Keep it for the simulator. I don't want to be down the back when a hero like you decides to display his raw data 'skills'

Truly superior pilots are those who use their superior judgement to avoid those situations where they may have to use their superior skills
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Dubai. Dubai world. Abu Dhabi Sharjah. Ras Al Khaimah.

Yes 5 destinations
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From friends in QR, Qatar Airways flight going nearly empty to all destinations. Airport a ghost town. Costing a lot of money flying empty widebody aircraft worldwide.
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