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Old 28th May 2017, 11:20
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Unpaid leave for pilots?

Check last email. For non operational AND engineers, pilots and cabin crew...

I want my PAID LEAVE from my bank!

If they are able to offer unpaid leave... why can't I get my PAID leave?
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Old 28th May 2017, 11:53
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A very fair question.
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Old 28th May 2017, 12:01
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Just don't lose your recency or you'll have to pay for the sim😬
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Old 28th May 2017, 12:09
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I wonder how the pilot roadshows are going?

Actively recruiting while offering unpaid leave. A strange combination.
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Old 28th May 2017, 13:02
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You guys have been predicting GF2 for years so why acting so surprised?? I can guarantee you CM has told them where the excess fat is and schedules will continue to be trimmed. Meaning aircraft will be parked and if a deal can be made, even stored or leased out. Why is everyone acting like this is the first time you've seen this happen?
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Old 28th May 2017, 14:08
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Unpaid leave unavailable for line pilots, NOT management pilots...

Have a look on (eyecru) at a certain deputy chief pilot... yes that's right, on unpaid leave.
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Old 28th May 2017, 14:22
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a certain deputy chief pilot... yes that's right, on unpaid leave
That's a safety measure, keeping them away from the stick.
Just as keeping a lot of morons away from their desks in EGHQ .....

Unpaid leave:
Good news for all whale jockeys, every morning you can count at least 18 units sequestered at maintenance, so enjoy a clean leave bank!
Unfortunately the main fleet has to do the job, not to lose even more doe i guess.
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Old 28th May 2017, 14:28
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Is it Boeing & Airbus? Can't see anything fleet specific in the e mail........
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Old 28th May 2017, 14:39
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You get up too early Gloie. They are all at gates ready to go by lunchtime.
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Old 28th May 2017, 15:02
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Keep on dreaming don, or is your head stuck in the same sandpit as the managers'?

Wnp: I asked (B) and got it denied ...... go figure.
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Old 28th May 2017, 15:17
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Thanks Glo. ����������
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Old 28th May 2017, 15:50
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Glofer, you really are a broken record
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Old 28th May 2017, 16:14
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wiseass

can you put that in level6 English, please?

I guess you are offended by someone observing the desperate towing exercise to cover up the blunderbus surplus. Sure enough these units go flying at a certain time. They need to be operated due to leasing issues. But please, up to a few weeks ago we never saw such numbers parked. They might eventually go to the emptied stands, once all T7s went working, and await a rare flight. But they were grounded for a time that exceeds by far the normally operative level.
So excuse me for pointing out the difference in the leave situation (or for that matter unpaid leave situation) on different fleets. A tiny amount of fatalistic sarcasm should be allowed, if some of us work their butts off while others enjoy a lot of days off and seem to be more able to get unpaid leave (or normal leave for that matter). It would pass more easily if it were not accompanied by pure denial of what this surplus of guzzling animals have done to the company, our wallets and now the T7s jockeys time off.
The 380 is a disaster, has always been called that, apart from management and some suffering from the shiny "super" syndrome.

Today it simply shows. Any denial is Trumpesque.

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Old 28th May 2017, 16:57
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Glo. You really do talk out of your nether regions... I guess they ignored your 'expertise' in airline management by doubling up the BHX, PVG and PEK routes to the 'Whale'... Not that I want China😮 but Brum I'm happy with!

Factor in the original terminal being virtually rebuilt and yep, there are lots of 777 and 380 parked out at remote stands waiting to be towed to a contact gate!
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Old 28th May 2017, 17:30
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Apparently the unpaid leave to pilots thing was a mistake by HR and there's none available on either fleet. So there we are Blowpish, balanced like the chips on both your shoulders.
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Old 28th May 2017, 18:15
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Are you sure, Eau-de-B?
No unpaid leave at all for us? (I'm 777 as well).
Anything official?
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Old 28th May 2017, 18:27
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Starting to sound very familiair at what they did over at T2. We need to cut the operational budget? Ok, unpaid leave offered to pilots and cc. Quite a few took it and suddenly the bulb switches back on and they are cancelling awarded UL for many.
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Old 28th May 2017, 19:15
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WK, straight out of someone's mouth who knows, 380's getting extra resting time, but no more than 36hrs or so and they also heard the rumour of a number of 77Ws, numbering in the teens, also going too get extra resting time. Part 1 fact, part 2 rumour.
Just passing on what was told to me outside of earshot, CVRs and listening devices!
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Old 28th May 2017, 21:36
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Possibly MM because we're a tad short on pilots?

The leave calendar still shows broad swathes of red. And only red!
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Old 29th May 2017, 02:49
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Glofer.... QED
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