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Hey guys,
Thanks again for all of your responses.
Just to clarify - I work for BBC Newsnight.
I have set up an account on Threema, which is a totally anonymous means of contacting me, for those who are nervous regarding contacting me via email. You can speak with me on there under total anonymity.
All you need to do is go to the apple app store and download Threema.
My user ID is: N6C3R3ES.
FYI: https://www.eff.org/node/82654
Many thanks,
Orla
Thanks again for all of your responses.
Just to clarify - I work for BBC Newsnight.
I have set up an account on Threema, which is a totally anonymous means of contacting me, for those who are nervous regarding contacting me via email. You can speak with me on there under total anonymity.
All you need to do is go to the apple app store and download Threema.
My user ID is: N6C3R3ES.
FYI: https://www.eff.org/node/82654
Many thanks,
Orla
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Any email system can be traced, and that will put some guys off. For those who want to participate but are worried about being tracked, Orla, why not have an address where they can post a pen and paper letter to you with whatever they want to say; they can post that from anywhere on the planet and it becomes untraceable if they want to go to the extent of wearing gloves to keep fingerprints off the paper (our prints are all on record here). As I said before, the RYR guys that co-operated with the Dutch TV programme were given up to RYR when the company threatened legal action. I don't think anyone would believe any assurances the BBC gave them over anonymity, at least I hope not - the BBC, despite having many fine employees, has repeatedly demonstrated it has its own agenda and that it is less than scrupulous.
Personally, I think a programme about ME FTLs is missing the point - they are significantly more conservative than EASA FTLs, and the pressure applied to crews to use Commander's Discretion or Reduced Rest is less than in EU low cost airlines. Their behaviour is far more worthy of your time.
Personally, I think a programme about ME FTLs is missing the point - they are significantly more conservative than EASA FTLs, and the pressure applied to crews to use Commander's Discretion or Reduced Rest is less than in EU low cost airlines. Their behaviour is far more worthy of your time.
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Orla, go a head. You will discover a lot of irregularities in the ME Airlines.
All of them are abusing the system and the non protective environment makes things even worse. It's all about profit nobody cares about safety and their employees.
Even worse is that the authorities support this behaviour as they are far from being independent.
Good luck and hope some good reports from your side will put a public light on what's going on here and in general in the aviation.
All of them are abusing the system and the non protective environment makes things even worse. It's all about profit nobody cares about safety and their employees.
Even worse is that the authorities support this behaviour as they are far from being independent.
Good luck and hope some good reports from your side will put a public light on what's going on here and in general in the aviation.
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Aluminium shuffler, I agree to your post!
But still it stands that in the ME the situation is much more difficult to be addressed.
At least in Europe the Unions still try to tackle the problem beside their success is not as good as it should be.
Remember the EK 521 trip which used to be totally illegal but got changed only after the WSJ Media Campaign.
So the Media can be helpful to increase pressure.
But still it stands that in the ME the situation is much more difficult to be addressed.
At least in Europe the Unions still try to tackle the problem beside their success is not as good as it should be.
Remember the EK 521 trip which used to be totally illegal but got changed only after the WSJ Media Campaign.
So the Media can be helpful to increase pressure.
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Talparc
You're all mouth and no trousers. If you're so concerned with ME airlines, why don't YOU contact the journalist and give him the juicy details? I'll bet you my 50' Sunseeker and Bentley Mulsanne you don't. You come on these forums like a stuck record with your constant whinging and moaning about ME carriers and how badly you and every other employer is treated. Yet, you're still here. Why?
Whilst there are undoubtedly issues here, I can guarantee you that there are far bigger fish to fry around the World, some of which are indeed unionised and based in Europe!
Maybe you should focus your frustrations close to home.
Harry
You're all mouth and no trousers. If you're so concerned with ME airlines, why don't YOU contact the journalist and give him the juicy details? I'll bet you my 50' Sunseeker and Bentley Mulsanne you don't. You come on these forums like a stuck record with your constant whinging and moaning about ME carriers and how badly you and every other employer is treated. Yet, you're still here. Why?
Whilst there are undoubtedly issues here, I can guarantee you that there are far bigger fish to fry around the World, some of which are indeed unionised and based in Europe!
Maybe you should focus your frustrations close to home.
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Harry, I would like to call your cards on this one. If you are a man of honor then you owe Talparc your 50' Sunseeker and Bentley Mulsanne. I have it in writing before me that he is in contact with Orla and has shared a great deal of evidence. As have I.
Some of us are putting on the fight beyond this forum. No need to badmouth us.
Some of us are putting on the fight beyond this forum. No need to badmouth us.
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Harry, beside I really respected most of your posts so far but this time I think you went too far!
Iam not frustrated at all, I just have a different agenda in working on important issues arising from the ME system in destroying employees and once great companies while at the same time compromising safety.
As I have for sure more time on my fleet available then you doing night TAs, yes I am engaged with a lot of activites talking to Media, Governments, Unions to work on a bigger picture in improving Pilots lives and passenger safety.
At times when still the health of Pilots get destroyed by profit driven companies.
PM me and I will share my success with you.
As I don't need your yacht ( have 2 myself 42' ,30' ) I would definitely take the Bentley provided the license plate Nr. is good enough for me.
Iam not frustrated at all, I just have a different agenda in working on important issues arising from the ME system in destroying employees and once great companies while at the same time compromising safety.
As I have for sure more time on my fleet available then you doing night TAs, yes I am engaged with a lot of activites talking to Media, Governments, Unions to work on a bigger picture in improving Pilots lives and passenger safety.
At times when still the health of Pilots get destroyed by profit driven companies.
PM me and I will share my success with you.
As I don't need your yacht ( have 2 myself 42' ,30' ) I would definitely take the Bentley provided the license plate Nr. is good enough for me.
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Interesting thread. If you gave them an address, maybe they could write to you with their thoughts the old fashioned way and retain anonymity? Would be great to see a documentary on everything we hear about it out there.....not to mention treatment of labourers (vis a visa the guardian reporters) and cabin crew difficulties.
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Hi,
As I stated previously, anyone who speaks with me - it will be under total anonymity.That is a guarantee from me.
I am using the app threema, mentioned above, which allows people to contact me under total anonymity.
This is my address should anyone with to write to me.
BBC Newsnight, Zone D, 3rd Floor, BBC Broadcasting House, Portland Place, London, UK, W1A 1AA
Many thanks,
Orla
As I stated previously, anyone who speaks with me - it will be under total anonymity.That is a guarantee from me.
I am using the app threema, mentioned above, which allows people to contact me under total anonymity.
This is my address should anyone with to write to me.
BBC Newsnight, Zone D, 3rd Floor, BBC Broadcasting House, Portland Place, London, UK, W1A 1AA
Many thanks,
Orla
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Orla, as much as I would like to see you bring the evil Mid East slave trader to book, there is also the blatant fatigue causing rosters in U.K. Companies. Easy pilots voted to push for industrial action based solely on fatigue. This is a CAA approved company with an approved SMS and fatigue monitoring system in place. Which based on the employees votes were totally unfit for purpose.
Thomas cook pilot wins tribunal with regard to reporting a fatigue enducing roster.
It's happening in the uk and the authorities will only act in hindsight.
Go to Gatwick and start asking awkward questions then speak to line pilots, because the lazy regulators certainly don't go out on the line anymore.
Thomas cook pilot wins tribunal with regard to reporting a fatigue enducing roster.
It's happening in the uk and the authorities will only act in hindsight.
Go to Gatwick and start asking awkward questions then speak to line pilots, because the lazy regulators certainly don't go out on the line anymore.
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Deep N Fast
Still think Mr TC was not suffering from "fatigue" but "sleepiness" (the need to sleep) there is a subtle but important difference...And the issue was just as much about "bent" block times.
My personal experience remains neutral e.g. 50% Pilot induced problems, 50% Company / Rostering type problems.
Might be a different split down at Gatwick!
Still think Mr TC was not suffering from "fatigue" but "sleepiness" (the need to sleep) there is a subtle but important difference...And the issue was just as much about "bent" block times.
My personal experience remains neutral e.g. 50% Pilot induced problems, 50% Company / Rostering type problems.
Might be a different split down at Gatwick!