HR pilots resigning?
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Really ? this is strange , none of the selection pilots, as opposed to the Tre,s , that I've come across are current on type due to medical suspension or loss . & there are about 10 of them . The few that were active pilots have mostly left , at least that's been my experience .
I thought I was giving the facts as I know them , wonder why I haven't come across any actively flying recruitment guys/girls for a long time in fact not since shortly after MK left ? I do know that Tre,s definitely receive no extra remuneration for recruitment duty . I standby to be corrected though , that's just been my experience & I do know 3 or 4 current guys who resigned from the recruitment post . Btw way I agree many "facts" written on Pprune are simply wrong , but not always .
I thought I was giving the facts as I know them , wonder why I haven't come across any actively flying recruitment guys/girls for a long time in fact not since shortly after MK left ? I do know that Tre,s definitely receive no extra remuneration for recruitment duty . I standby to be corrected though , that's just been my experience & I do know 3 or 4 current guys who resigned from the recruitment post . Btw way I agree many "facts" written on Pprune are simply wrong , but not always .
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But don't let the actual facts colour your story.
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@ Hook:
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There is a distinct difference between just working for an unfair outfit and helping it with additional service.
Recruiters and trainers get more money and benefits (that simple soldiers can’t get) for their additional work. That’s fair enough and I have never criticised it until they complained of not getting enough of the ‘more’ (that would be to even more detriment of the soldiers), or when they start being complice to double standards and complain about it at the same time (see contributions 194 + 197 on the 330/340 transfer policy thread).
You can either help them with their biased policies and by that can no longer deny complicity, or stick to your simple working contract that you need to fulfill by law. Only then you can complain if this contract is being ridiculised by a B scale for newbees. Some need food on the table and have no big alternative at the moment (most are working on it though), no one desperately needs additional benefits. There is a difference. I could have seen myself join the recruitment or training team earlier (I never did though), nothing wrong with that, but the moment I would feel complice to such abysmal and unfair new shenanigans that shaft myself as well, I would resign for this additional service the very first moment.
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A lot of finger pointing going on here. Blaming the recruitment pilots. Glofish even blaming the trainers! And when you run out of people to blame, who next? Yourselves?
Glofish, you're flying for this company! You're also the management's servant and as 'bad' ( according to you) as anybody else......
Glofish, you're flying for this company! You're also the management's servant and as 'bad' ( according to you) as anybody else......
Recruiters and trainers get more money and benefits (that simple soldiers can’t get) for their additional work. That’s fair enough and I have never criticised it until they complained of not getting enough of the ‘more’ (that would be to even more detriment of the soldiers), or when they start being complice to double standards and complain about it at the same time (see contributions 194 + 197 on the 330/340 transfer policy thread).
You can either help them with their biased policies and by that can no longer deny complicity, or stick to your simple working contract that you need to fulfill by law. Only then you can complain if this contract is being ridiculised by a B scale for newbees. Some need food on the table and have no big alternative at the moment (most are working on it though), no one desperately needs additional benefits. There is a difference. I could have seen myself join the recruitment or training team earlier (I never did though), nothing wrong with that, but the moment I would feel complice to such abysmal and unfair new shenanigans that shaft myself as well, I would resign for this additional service the very first moment.
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I have seen at least 5 operational TREs doing assessment in the last couple of months. All of them love it ! Easy sim credit. Counts as a Sim/ ground duty as a TRE. Ie total of 8 ( on a month)
Fellas I think you are looking in the wrong place to find blame.
No one in flight Ops has any say in EK. Money pinching blunties know all and make all decisions. To have the token pilots removed from the equation is not going to solve anything nor teach anyone any lessons. It does not work that way here. The only thing that will be achieved is the only voices of reason, being these pilots, will be removed from the office. More back patting and high fives from blunties involved.
No one in flight Ops has any say in EK. Money pinching blunties know all and make all decisions. To have the token pilots removed from the equation is not going to solve anything nor teach anyone any lessons. It does not work that way here. The only thing that will be achieved is the only voices of reason, being these pilots, will be removed from the office. More back patting and high fives from blunties involved.
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No one is blaming any pilot in recruitment for this mess. In fact the thread was started to pay a compliment.
None of us here are pure.
But I think the message is - there's a difference between a stripper and a whore.
No one is blaming any pilot in recruitment for this mess. In fact the thread was started to pay a compliment.
None of us here are pure.
But I think the message is - there's a difference between a stripper and a whore.
Fair cop Gov.
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@ Hook:
You wrote:
There is a distinct difference between just working for an unfair outfit and helping it with additional service.
Recruiters and trainers get more money and benefits (that simple soldiers can’t get) for their additional work. That’s fair enough and I have never criticised it until they complained of not getting enough of the ‘more’ (that would be to even more detriment of the soldiers), or when they start being complice to double standards and complain about it at the same time (see contributions 194 + 197 on the 330/340 transfer policy thread).
You can either help them with their biased policies and by that can no longer deny complicity, or stick to your simple working contract that you need to fulfill by law. Only then you can complain if this contract is being ridiculised by a B scale for newbees. Some need food on the table and have no big alternative at the moment (most are working on it though), no one desperately needs additional benefits. There is a difference. I could have seen myself join the recruitment or training team earlier (I never did though), nothing wrong with that, but the moment I would feel complice to such abysmal and unfair new shenanigans that shaft myself as well, I would resign for this additional service the very first moment.
You wrote:
There is a distinct difference between just working for an unfair outfit and helping it with additional service.
Recruiters and trainers get more money and benefits (that simple soldiers can’t get) for their additional work. That’s fair enough and I have never criticised it until they complained of not getting enough of the ‘more’ (that would be to even more detriment of the soldiers), or when they start being complice to double standards and complain about it at the same time (see contributions 194 + 197 on the 330/340 transfer policy thread).
You can either help them with their biased policies and by that can no longer deny complicity, or stick to your simple working contract that you need to fulfill by law. Only then you can complain if this contract is being ridiculised by a B scale for newbees. Some need food on the table and have no big alternative at the moment (most are working on it though), no one desperately needs additional benefits. There is a difference. I could have seen myself join the recruitment or training team earlier (I never did though), nothing wrong with that, but the moment I would feel complice to such abysmal and unfair new shenanigans that shaft myself as well, I would resign for this additional service the very first moment.
