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Old 20th Feb 2017, 05:04
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Originally Posted by Nikita81
So I see nothing has changed here. Harry is still trying to manipulate emotionally (his manipulative attitude reminds me of Serbian idiot prime minister) and for some of you the only goal in life is to use the system for personal gain while the rest of the world can f burn...

Good luck Ashley.
I try not to judge, but I think people should have and act according to their ethical standards. Otherwise we are just a bunch of clueless living organisms wandering around without a common goal.
You launch full attack when someone opposes your opinion, however you sound quite diplomatic and a non-judgemental when one of your defendants did something non ethical and quite in line with the all the wrong things at EK you are claiming for the past years...

Pretty much like your beloved PM.

Don't lose your credibility over your personality
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Old 20th Feb 2017, 05:21
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EK pilots at their finest! This is a disgrace and they don't even realize it.
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Old 20th Feb 2017, 05:39
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@littlejet

That was not my full attack.

I would ask for an example of my non-consistent attitude, but I don't want to go off the topic. Next time, please describe your argument because I cannot consider your criticism seriously and maybe even change myself if I don't know what you are talking about. Thanks.
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Old 20th Feb 2017, 06:36
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Originally Posted by Nikita81
@littlejet

That was not my full attack.

I would ask for an example of my non-consistent attitude, but I don't want to go off the topic. Next time, please describe your argument because I cannot consider your criticism seriously and maybe even change myself if I don't know what you are talking about. Thanks.
You're welcome.

I can copy and paste your posts here, I've read all of them...
You are judging Harry's posts for example, you don't miss an opportunity to bomb everyone who sides with EK, attacking them for taking an advantage of aledged slavery conditions selfishly for their own benefits.
We all know your story.
AK was a front face of EK for quite some time, the company who has stripped you of all dignity and showed you the reality of working conditions...I was expecting the same reaction from you however you have just sidelined on this one...Why?
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Old 20th Feb 2017, 07:10
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Geez Harry, still sensitive I see.

I or Nolimit have not made any derogatory or disparaging remarks about the lady.

What I have stated is that I would have more respect for the lady and the company if the film was factually balanced...its not. Again and in simple terms, when one tries to spin BS, one has to expect some backlash. There are more derogatory and disparaging remarks in an upgrade here, I'd expect she would have thicker skin than what you indicate.

I do not make assessments on people in 2 minutes, Its a process that builds over time. I can't speak for you Harry but your overly valiant attempts to defend the lady seems to indicate that there is more to the story.

Your position and posts seem to border on the "over-bearing" with regard to your stance on derogatory, disparaging, cyber bullying, and the like, nothing like that was stated by me or Nolimit, perhaps you are referring to another thread or posters?

Obviously we are on differing sides of the fence on this so best to leave it at that.
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Old 20th Feb 2017, 07:18
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@littlejet

Because Ashley knew what she was signing up for.

You think I didn't have the opportunity to use my blue eyes, white skin, English language skills and education to get more from Dubai? To settle myself and secure my future?

Of all the living creatures on this world it seems that only people have reason, but it also seems they don't use it or use it for selfish purposes.

Ashley did the video. Then she left. She didn't help herself and she didn't help others. She gained something short term, but she lost in long terms. It's everyone's lost actually, because if people cannot use their reason to make this world a better place by simply having some ethical standards, then there is no difference between humans and plants, except plants are useful.

I respect women. Especially women in "male businesses", but I respect people with integrity more. And, like it or not, we all feel the consequences of our actions and choices. Our actions influence other people. Ashley knew that.

Sincere good luck to her, though. Who am I to judge?

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Old 20th Feb 2017, 09:00
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Well, I think you are biased...
Yes you have judged us males, yet you are refusing to judge her.
She was happy at EK, ignorant of your troubles same as all of us when you were getting fired and starting your war against the Company. You have underlined that many times.
I personally think that she did nothing wrong...we are not citizens of the Country, this is not our home and without real retirement or health benefits eternal loyalty is not expected.
As for the male business... never ending story. There is no male and female pilot license.
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Old 20th Feb 2017, 10:30
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Well, women have tougher lives than men.

I said I didn't want to judge her, but it's clear from the context that I, actually, did. Couldn't even hide it from myself, so how come I've hid it from you?
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Old 20th Feb 2017, 11:16
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What gets me, is love fest that some to have for her. Oh she's nice, qualified, who can blame her and so on. The hypocrisy is rampent. As Panther mentioned, who here defended Captain America after his pr job on the front page of the Wall Street Journal? Other than himself......sort of. In fact, if I'm correct, he got his nickname after the article. But where is poor little girl's nickname? So all you defenders, if you were here eleven years ago, I'm glad you defended C.A. and now taking up for our beset upon Ashley? Or did you bash the C.A., but have to now guard against being politically incorrect? Seems like a lot here have vilified Nikita, who seems to be able to stand up for herself, but have to play big brother to our poor Ashley? That's how I'm reading it.

BTW, I know she was very disappointed in her roll on the ED chat show. She only got to spin the prize wheel. She was hoping to get "noticed".
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Old 20th Feb 2017, 11:31
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I think "Captain Barbie" works quite well.

She's a big girl, she can take it.
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Old 20th Feb 2017, 11:34
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But not as big as you, hey Geordie!

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Old 20th Feb 2017, 11:38
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to call her Captain Barbie is the idea of an assh**e, leave her alone, grow some balls and leave too
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Old 20th Feb 2017, 11:49
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Oh, touchy.

So it is okay to pick on the male Instagram heroes but the attractive (eye of the beholder and all that) women are off limits, are they?

And "If you don't like it leave". Classy.
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Old 20th Feb 2017, 13:08
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I wonder if one of the famous DCPA or DCPB had been the protagonist, would they have had as many groupies step in for them ...... ?
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Old 21st Feb 2017, 03:25
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Where did Ashley go anyway
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Old 21st Feb 2017, 05:20
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Good Point TU,

I had forgotten all about Tartanguy, the man with the tartan nose and brown boat, or was it the other way around?

Of course his reasons were different though, he was kissing up for a office job with ED if memory serves. But your points seem to have validity in that the prettier you are (subjective, of course), the more justified the action is. Tartanguy was a capable pilot as well but he didn't have others defending him.

I wonder if he and Harry were both fans of the sea?
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Old 22nd Feb 2017, 07:46
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Man, the way Harry gushes on about her based on what - one flight? - you'd think he was the proud papa. I had my own meeting in person, outside the training college after a sim while we all waited for the Volvos to be assigned. Frankly my impression wasn't quite as glowing as Harry's (hope that's not too "disparaging"?). Perhaps she thought, as many with an inflated idea of their own attractiveness do, that anyone who is trying to kill time with small talk is looking for more? But hey, maybe not, anyone can have a bad day. No doubt she felt more comfortable with Harry, being of a non-threatening, more "fatherly" generation.

Didn't give it a thought then, only made the connection back when the video came out. And wouldn't even have mentioned it now except Harry's comments about "anonymous posters" slagging someone, while he himself is anonymously blowing sunshine up everyone's ar$e, struck me as illogical if not hypocritical. One anonymous comment does not bear more weight than another. And I have not said a thing I wouldn't say in person, given the opportunity, if I thought it was worth the effort. I don't.

The irony is my comments were remarking on the optics of the decision to leave, not the person. It was Harry who decided to make it an issue of character. I'm solely interested in how EK would spin the question of someone they pumped a lot of PR money into, bailing to their home country and airline so soon after so publicly expounding the wonders of expat life in Dubai and the exotic opportunities associated. I really don't care to either vilify or glorify the person involved. EK was the target of my comments, not her.

But like others I do think it's interesting that Harry isn't exactly leaping to the defense of the other Instagram heroes. I guess bullying is in the eye of the beholder.

Stick with your Bentleys and yachts, Harry. I highly doubt this woman needs your help. Unlike you, she got out.
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Old 22nd Feb 2017, 07:56
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Very good nolimit...!
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Old 22nd Feb 2017, 21:26
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"EK was the target of my comments, not her". Which is why in post 141 you referred to 2 individuals as 'Duchie and Barbie". Or is that just banter?

"And I have not said a thing I wouldn't say in person......"

Sure. No doubt about it, she'd love to have been addressed as Barbie while you waited for your Volvo. Your efforts at back peddling and deflection from the accusation of individual bullying are commendable but transparent in their insincerity.

At least sluggums believes you.

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Old 23rd Feb 2017, 05:21
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Same here: Top bid, high in seniority and just got 1 thing I asked for. Everything else ignored or even opposite of what I put in. tx also for keeping my days-off under 10 again.
Well done AAR and all the idiots who helped 'tailer' the jepp. bidding app EK-style! u surely did a great job!
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