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Old 15th Mar 2017, 22:13
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BUMP.. any new thoughts on this.. am looking at all mid east carriers including Turkish. so

do i even put it on my application or not?


Thanks..
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Old 16th Mar 2017, 14:02
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Look, it's just not about saying no and hopefully you get it.
You will be asked to produce a official report from your
country's authorities indicating no criminal convictions.
Also most airlines use a private third party service that goes
looking into everything about you, so they sure as hell will
find it. Try to get it pardoned or expunged.
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Old 16th Mar 2017, 18:42
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Cannot get it pardoned or expunged.. not in that state. was a misdemeanor no injuries no crash non of that ****. was also now 15 years ago and since then no nothing on record. either aviation or other.

So I still say yes on the application since they are going to check everything and then get denied eh?
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Old 16th Mar 2017, 22:06
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Better to say no on the app with the chance it might go through than to say yes and for sure be denied.
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Old 17th Mar 2017, 11:02
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Someone asks a fair question looking for advice, others give those answers and then a debate takes place as to whether said posters are talking butter ollocks or what.

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Old 17th Mar 2017, 12:38
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so a guaranteed denial? is this the consensus?
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Old 18th Mar 2017, 00:29
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All this talk about blowing brains sounds a little proactive. Perhaps you need a few more years stateside before you can have the diplomatic sense for an overseas contract. In the ME or even Asia things you do and say can be taken very serious and some people may find them offensive. That's more than once talking about blowing brains out. If you can't handle working in the states so bad, and you're an fo in a regional, what makes you think you could survive working overseas. If you want to quit, just quit already. Less competition for pilots who aren't so easily willing to "blow their brains out" lmfao. Dude grow up and stop bitching
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Old 19th Mar 2017, 13:47
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Im not quite sure about bitching more than an agonizing situation and therefore looking for information as to how to remedy that. I have already worked overseas and believe me its a heck of allot better than working here. So what ill gather from your post is that you have no information to actually contribute.

check.
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Old 20th Mar 2017, 12:38
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got a message from another forum stating directly not to put it on the app.... thoughts from anyone with actual experience?
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Old 20th Mar 2017, 17:25
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Ignore the guy giving no constructive criticism. He's one of the people that take out their frustration online due to their miserable lives. Lol
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Old 21st Mar 2017, 17:12
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Be careful what you are doing with this, their background checking
service will most likely locate the criminal record, and if you are
on the property when they do, you might find yourself in a middle-east
jail cell. Obtaining a QCAA pilots licence under false declarations is
a crimimal offence, and they like to punish first, figure out later, in this part of the world.
Be very careful making any false statements over here,
it's not a game in this part of the world.
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Old 21st Mar 2017, 19:32
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Originally Posted by Obbie
Be careful what you are doing with this, their background checking
service will most likely locate the criminal record, and if you are
on the property when they do, you might find yourself in a middle-east
jail cell. Obtaining a QCAA pilots licence under false declarations is
a crimimal offence, and they like to punish first, figure out later, in this part of the world.
Be very careful making any false statements over here,
it's not a game in this part of the world.
Yepp, that was also my first thought. Also posting such a question on PPRUNE might not be the best idea. Somebody in the bouncy castle might read it......
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Old 22nd Mar 2017, 05:04
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It never happened. Now go get the job you desire in the Middle East.
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Old 22nd Mar 2017, 07:26
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Actually it has happened, but even if it hadn't,
your advise is to be the first ?
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Old 22nd Mar 2017, 20:38
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Keep posting your frustrations here on pprune. I'm sure these are probably read by the same people doing your background checks. And what's your remedy? Well wait ten years and expunge it. Than apply overseas when you have a clean record. Until than enjoy working in the us. Lots of companies will be more than happy to hire you. That's my contrinutable information. Good luck!
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Old 28th Jul 2017, 05:21
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bump? any new input?
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Old 28th Jul 2017, 05:48
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Wow, we're almost at two years from the initial post. Hopefully, it's gotten better. It would seem after 15+ with a clean record, for a misdemeanor, going by what you stated, you may be able to petition to have it expunged. Whether you can or cannot, it would depend on the state. You could check with a competent lawyer in the state of the occurrence and pay the one hour for a consultation.

If not, it would not just be your overseas license that puts you at risk, even your visa to live in said location in that part of the world requires a police report that demonstrates a clean record.

I also agree with Obbie, if you are caught lying while on the ground in the Middle East, the rules and protection that you enjoy in your home country do not apply. While nothing more may happen than your denial of visa & employment, it is a risk.

Your better bet would be to go somewhere where some additional dollars can make people look past these things, like flying Cargo from a base in the Ukraine. I met a CX Cargo pilot here, who left the Ukraine and totally regrets it. Not joking.
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Old 28th Jul 2017, 11:12
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Cripes, medical recovery period allowing me to scan Pprune. Lovely stuff & this discussion is just brilliant. I thought USA was the "Land of free " ? If you doubt, ask OJ Simpson !


Worse, mate of mine, ex long-time in the ME, got very close to a job with the Royal Flight. He was rejected for, allegedly, having a Police Record. Closer investigation showed no record. Upon leaving, application for Police Record showed no offences on the certificate. He has framed it and proudly displays the same on his office wall.


People ask him why he failed to get into the RF, he tells them of the "Police Record" and then points to the framed "No Record" on the wall.


Sorry, SOAKINGPILOT. Of no real comfort I know, but, good grief ; what a weird world we live in, eh ?
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Old 30th Jul 2017, 22:25
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What would lying on the application do you any good if you know for sure beforehand that after getting a job offer you have to get a police record anyway? They will 100% ask for it. You will 100% have to hand it over to your future employer before signing a contract.

So it will only be an issue if you can not get any police record from the states without the DUI showing,

Btw, about the part that it was just a silly thing: thank god it was just a silly thing and no-one was injured at the time. People like you set a great example on why to take rules and laws serious. So this is indeed how the system works as far as I can tell.
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Old 30th Aug 2017, 23:49
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People like you set a great example on why to take rules and laws serious. So this is indeed how the system works as far as I can tell.
im not sure if this is sarcasm or not.
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