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Old 16th Jun 2015, 06:51
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Paris Airshow: Boeing releases artist impressions of A380 assembly line 2025

Intriguing. As the orders for the Blunderjet flood in, this is their best guess at what it might look like.

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And your point?
Perhaps drawing comparisons with the B748 production line in 2015.......
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Paris Airshow: Boeing releases artist impressions of A380 assembly line 2025

I never knew that Soyuz was a shuttle...still, that's what that article says so it must be true.
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Maybe your eyes need a polish. They're Buran.
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Not another Boeing vs Airbus thread, boring, yawn
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Buran was in Sydney 15 years ago during the Olympics.Had a good look around it,pretty impressive.I walked inside the cargo bay and up to the flight deck to see everything up close.It was one of the test models:

Is the Buran that was on display in Sydney a real space Buran?
No, it is the aerodynamic tester Buran OK-GLI. It never flew in space nor was it designed to. It was, however, used to conduct tests on the automatic landing system for the eventual space orbiters, as such it flew in the low atmosphere. That's what it needed the engines for - so that it could get up to a height of around 5000 metres and practice landing approaches. It’s back in Moscow now btw.
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Arrow US Too Dependent on Russian Rocket Engines

Always so funny to laugh about the Russians and their supposed weaknesses in Aerospace technology .... now read :


Should the Russian government yank its supply of rocket engines for United States launches, critical national-security satellite missions could be delayed up to four years, experts told a joint Senate hearing (2014, July 16).
United Launch Alliance's (ULA) Atlas 5 rocket is the workhorse of heavy satellite launches in the United States, but the booster requires a Russian RD-180 engine to get off the ground.
Recent geopolitical disputes between Russia and the United States have thrown this arrangement, which has been in place for decades, into turmoil. In Twitter remarks in May, Russian Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin threatened to ban all sales of RD-180 engines to the United States intended for use in military launches
"If you look at what has happened to us now in the past few months, it points to a vulnerability," Gen. William Shelton, head of Air Force Space Command, told senators in remarks broadcast on the web from Washington, D.C.
"We decided to rely on a foreign supplier — with probably the most advanced rocket engine in the world, by the way — and that has worked extremely well," added Shelton, who said that it is nevertheless time to look to new strategies for the future.
The hearing included the Senate subcommittee on strategic forces and the committee on commerce, science and transportation.

Limited engine stockpile

The Atlas 5 and ULA's Delta 4 carry the bulk of Air Force satellites into space, under a package deal in which the Air Force agreed to buy up to 36 evolved expendable launch vehicles from ULA. Fourteen other missions are up for bids. (This deal has come under fire by SpaceX, which wants the chance to compete for military launches with its Falcon 9 rocket.)
ULA has just 15 RD-180 engines left in its stockpile. The U.S. military currently uses about six to seven rockets a year, but other government agencies such as NASA also require Atlas 5 launches, Shelton said. The Delta 4 can only carry smaller and medium-sized satellites, but that rocket could take on some of the burden.
"We've got to ramp up the production of our Delta factory, which would take some time. That would stretch out launches maybe 12 to 20 months, and for the heavier missions maybe 48 months," Shelton said.
While SpaceX could be certified as early as this year, the Falcon 9 rocket is only capable of taking on medium-sized or smaller satellites, said Alan Estevez, the principal deputy under-secretary of defense for acquisition, technology and logistics.
It would take five to eight years to develop an American alternative to the RD-180 engine, he estimated. Estevez's department is doing a financial assessment of how to replace the RD-180, which should be complete in September.

Space station also affected

Access to space could also affect the International Space Station, although a representative for NASA said that relations with Russia remain smooth so far.
"There's no change to behavior at all," said NASA associate administrator Robert Lightfoot. "Our teams are working together with the Russians very well to continue space station operations."
That said, Rogozin also quipped via Twitter a few months ago that if the United States wants to send its astronauts to space alone, it should use a trampoline. All American crewmembers have launched to the orbiting lab aboard Russian Soyuz capsules since NASA retired its space shuttle fleet in 2011.
While NASA is encouraging the development of private American astronaut taxis through its commercial crew program, such spaceships likely won't be ready until 2017 at the earliest. Lightfoot said that even with more money, it would be difficult to push the readiness date up given there are certain checks and milestones that would have to be achieved.
Russians also operate several "key components" on the space station, added Lightfoot, saying that NASA would have to look at the situation more closely if relations between the two nations soured further.
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Yeap, typical american bu....it

They all honestly believe nobody else can build airliners, satellites, business jets, fighters, helicopters, missiles... and they still give good or bad grades to the rest of the world

Target of the day is alternatively Russia or the A380
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Arrow

The US Space Shuttle program is not in better shape anyway :
Yes, they did went into the air, and they don't have such a fantomatic factory to display - but how many finished in fireworks ?

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Kind of funny reading someone insulting our space program when they can't even piece together a proper English sentence. It's lonely at the top. Keep on hating.
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Originally Posted by V1cutz
Kind of funny reading someone insulting our space program when they can't even piece together a proper English sentence. It's lonely at the top. Keep on hating.
*programme

US English only exists in Microsoft land.
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...and the Boeing FCOM.

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Originally Posted by fliion
...and the Boeing FCOM.

; >

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Ah yes, all those "z" 's and missing "u" 's, but I digress, it's a fantastic "airplane" .
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Only chance we have at spelling MANEUVER!

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Arrow Biggest space contract ever...between France and Russia

News of two days ago .... ( sorry, not much Middle-East related- but I didn't start this thread anyway)

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Russia's Roscosmos Federal Space Agency secured a contract with France's Arianespace and British OneWeb global broadband Internet service to launch 672 satellites between 2017 and 2019

The OneWeb satellites will be able to provide broadband fiber-quality Internet to the entire world, and in particular to residents of rural areas without broadband Internet, according to Arianespace. The satellites will be launched using 21 Soyuz rockets, with an option for five more launched after the contract is complete for the purpose of replenishing old satellites.
"This contract is the biggest in the history of providing launch services. And the choice of Soyuz carrier rockets is evidence of the high competitiveness of Russian space launch technology," Roscosmos head Igor Komarov said.


The project provides for 21 space launches, with an option for five more if the contract is prolonged for another year afterwards. Arianespace praised the Soyuz carrier rockets for their ability to launch satellites into the polar orbit necessary for providing the service.

The launches are planned to take place at the Baikonur launch site in Kazakhstan, at Russia's new Vostochnyy cosmodrome and at the French Guyana Space Centre. Soyuz rockets will be built at Samara, Russia, as they have been for the past 40 years (1700+ built)

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Arrow Help from Russia for US space program

Well... how much was the bill ?


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A Russian Soyuz rocket with 5,249 pounds of long-awaited supplies for the International Space Station has been launched on July 3 from the Kazakhstan-based Baikonur Cosmodrome , after two prior supply missions failed.

The launch, controlled by the Russian Federal Space Agency, Roscosmos, comes immediately (one week) after another unmanned Falcon 9 rocket built by American commercial spaceflight firm SpaceX, carrying two tons of ISS supplies exploded shortly after liftoff in the skies above Cape Canaveral.
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Airbus commits to new A380 | The Sunday Times
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Intriguing. As the orders for the Blunderjet flood in, this is their best guess at what it might look like.

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