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Old 14th Apr 2015, 15:20
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Or you can wait until the Turkish Airlines Road Show in Dubai and ask them directly.

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Old 14th Apr 2015, 15:44
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Originally Posted by marvelman
thrustidle74,

Last week THY's agents sent solicitation emails "Improved Salary and Bonus" with the so-called "New" Terms and Conditions attached.
One of these Latest T&C's and a great deal of info, already posted within these 3 pages here.
The implied so-called 20% increase is already included in the "New" average monthly salary and bonus, paid in Turkish lira, TRY 29,432 / USD 11,064, before Turkish taxes.
In general, Turkish Lira record devaluation in progress, political and financial uncertainty, as investors moving billions out of Turkey.
Thanks for the info, I've read the previous posts but I was confused. My friends there say the pay is already 29400TRY. That's why I was wondering. As you said it must be "so called" improved pay.
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Old 14th Apr 2015, 17:07
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Every which way I try to figure this out, I don't come close to the 29K TL figure…. I'm about where Marvels is…. with the added quarterly profit share…. 24K or thereabouts


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Originally Posted by Kapitanleutnant
Every which way I try to figure this out, I don't come close to the 29K TL figure…. I'm about where Marvels is…. with the added quarterly profit share…. 24K or thereabouts


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Here is the link
http://jobs.flightglobal.com/job/1401416229/turkish-airlines-b777-captains-improved-salary-and-bonus-/

My friends confirmed they are already getting what is stated in the improved package. That's why I was confused.
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Old 15th Apr 2015, 01:35
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That must be it Marvel. It makes sense.
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Old 15th Apr 2015, 06:06
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Let's face it. 99.9% of expats spend their money overseas, whether short term or long term, whether it's US Dollars, Euros, Pounds, Aussie Dollars etc. So this 20% pay rise is just complete BS. It's purely a rapidly declining currency, and 20% in real terms is actually a pay DROP in your home curency!

Get used to seeing these campaigns from THY, as they will be one of the very few Airlines that can spout these supposedly "substantial" pay rises, all the while their costs are reducing. When you buy a THY ticket in Turkey, whilst it is charged in Lira, the price increases according to the exchange rate of a real currency. Therefore with strong solid income for them and reducing salaries for you (THY employees), THY is doing just fine

There are good points to the long haul gig, but the pay rise is a BS gimmick campaign. Go in informed and with your eyes wide open.
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Can someone smarter than I tell me why this FCI advert says the Turkish taxes are 1-2% whereas the others are saying 5%?

So confused…. :-)

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Hey Kap , They probably let slip the % extra they skim off you
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Don' t trust anybody not even the mirror
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Its all because of the village' idiot.
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Old 16th Apr 2015, 15:51
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Seems the village idiot is costing a lot to THY...
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Old 17th Apr 2015, 15:54
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TEMEL KOT?L; 'YERL? P?LOTA KASTIMIZ YOK'

"Please do not be mad at us for employing foreigners, we employ 700 foreigners at the moment but we are facing a pilot shortage. A captain takes 6 years to produce, therefor we have to employ them, we have nothing against our own"

"Turkish airlines pilots are our astronauts, they look after themselves and keep improving so much that they are our astronauts"

"The accident in France has taught us something new, the pilot job is something critical, the pilot there recently broke up with his girl friend, I think. Therefore, single pilots must get married ASAP"
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I think this message from the CEO beside its absurdity clarifies and confirms that Turkish Airlines is no place for expat. The attitude appears appalingly utilitarian and opportunistic. The austronaut just destroyed a brand new 330 by braking all possible regulatory and operation limits only the latest of serie of incidents that killed more than 1000 people in 25 years. Delusions and arrogance a dangerous mix. I personally stay far away even as passenger..😃
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Is this for real?????

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Old 19th Apr 2015, 21:54
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Puts things into perspective. If it suits your short term needs, it might be a nice gig but don't have too high expectations.
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This morning roadshow there were about 50 guys, most of them 777 ek........
The guys from TK were pretty honest and clear.
Money is nothing special but considering that you make around 10.000 euros to fly 70 hours a month I think it is quite good.
I see it as a very good option for this with older kids, out of school.
Very interesting is that in case you will stay more than 5 years you will also get some kind of state pension. I don't know how much it will be but if you can invest 10 or 15 years it my work quite decently.
As i said it is nothing special but comparing with 90 or more hours every month for many other years i would be very happy to get their job........
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Flare…

I too thought it was a fair and direct assessment of flying at Turkish. I also thought the money was not quite what it could be and I didn't hear and answer regarding the income protection plan.

However at some point in a career, it's not about the money anymore…. it's about lifestyle and our health!!

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Originally Posted by Kapitanleutnant
Flare…

I too thought it was a fair and direct assessment of flying at Turkish. I also thought the money was not quite what it could be and I didn't hear and answer regarding the income protection plan.

However at some point in a career, it's not about the money anymore…. it's about lifestyle and our health!!

K
There's no protection plan, however the pay review takes place every 2 years and pay rise decided for the following 4 batches of 6 months (ie 4 pay rises every 6 months for 2 year period) and always an increment plus inflation. Historically around 10-20% every 6 months. Sometimes less sometimes more depending on the inflation.Bear in mind this data is old, about 10 years ago. Don't think it had changed much.
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How did you calculate the 10000 euro flare? coz its 22000 tl for 70 hrs and the bonus is around 8700 every 3 months or did I miss here something?
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Originally Posted by Boeingrestricted
How did you calculate the 10000 euro flare? coz its 22000 tl for 70 hrs and the bonus is around 8700 every 3 months or did I miss here something?
Only if you add up accommodation allowance and university degree pay it adds up to about 9400€ based on today's rate.
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