EK Resignation Tips
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Mr Good Cat
"I think someone is pulling your leg my friend. Not sure anyone over there really wants you to convert to Islam in a city where most of the local men drink alcohol and visit prostitutes."
Factually incorrect Mr. Good Cat. That's a similar mindset to the MMD. It's unfair to simplify something, which for many westerners is beyond imagination, as the religion is the core of the law and the culture.
I was always surprised by how little knowledge people who lived there had of the law, and how easily they could find themselves in jail.
An important part of the religion is to convert non believers - numbers are everything and it accelerates the converter's path to paradise. Thus the law in so many of these countries, proscribing death or severe penalty for leaving the religion.
It's also incorrect to label all locals as you have. There are many who have a genuine belief in that way of life, and who don't partake in the activities you mention.
I believe new CC are still subject to a tour of the city's cultural highlights, including a visit to a mosque, where a western convert talks up the religion and suggests it strongly as a way of life. I can remember being told of this by CC. The GN newspaper used to have an annual boast of how many 'embraced' the religion. Never mentioning those forced to do so by the law as a result of marriage. This is a society, and company, in which those belonging to that religion are treated far more favourably than non believers.
I'm not arguing your other points, but it's best to be factual.
"I think someone is pulling your leg my friend. Not sure anyone over there really wants you to convert to Islam in a city where most of the local men drink alcohol and visit prostitutes."
Factually incorrect Mr. Good Cat. That's a similar mindset to the MMD. It's unfair to simplify something, which for many westerners is beyond imagination, as the religion is the core of the law and the culture.
I was always surprised by how little knowledge people who lived there had of the law, and how easily they could find themselves in jail.
An important part of the religion is to convert non believers - numbers are everything and it accelerates the converter's path to paradise. Thus the law in so many of these countries, proscribing death or severe penalty for leaving the religion.
It's also incorrect to label all locals as you have. There are many who have a genuine belief in that way of life, and who don't partake in the activities you mention.
I believe new CC are still subject to a tour of the city's cultural highlights, including a visit to a mosque, where a western convert talks up the religion and suggests it strongly as a way of life. I can remember being told of this by CC. The GN newspaper used to have an annual boast of how many 'embraced' the religion. Never mentioning those forced to do so by the law as a result of marriage. This is a society, and company, in which those belonging to that religion are treated far more favourably than non believers.
I'm not arguing your other points, but it's best to be factual.
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Mr Good Cat
"I think someone is pulling your leg my friend. Not sure anyone over there really wants you to convert to Islam in a city where most of the local men drink alcohol and visit prostitutes."
Factually incorrect Mr. Good Cat. That's a similar mindset to the MMD. It's unfair to simplify something, which for many westerners is beyond imagination, as the religion is the core of the law and the culture.
I was always surprised by how little knowledge people who lived there had of the law, and how easily they could find themselves in jail.
An important part of the religion is to convert non believers - numbers are everything and it accelerates the converter's path to paradise. Thus the law in so many of these countries, proscribing death or severe penalty for leaving the religion.
It's also incorrect to label all locals as you have. There are many who have a genuine belief in that way of life, and who don't partake in the activities you mention.
I believe new CC are still subject to a tour of the city's cultural highlights, including a visit to a mosque, where a western convert talks up the religion and suggests it strongly as a way of life. I can remember being told of this by CC. The GN newspaper used to have an annual boast of how many 'embraced' the religion. Never mentioning those forced to do so by the law as a result of marriage. This is a society, and company, in which those belonging to that religion are treated far more favourably than non believers.
I'm not arguing your other points, but it's best to be factual.
"I think someone is pulling your leg my friend. Not sure anyone over there really wants you to convert to Islam in a city where most of the local men drink alcohol and visit prostitutes."
Factually incorrect Mr. Good Cat. That's a similar mindset to the MMD. It's unfair to simplify something, which for many westerners is beyond imagination, as the religion is the core of the law and the culture.
I was always surprised by how little knowledge people who lived there had of the law, and how easily they could find themselves in jail.
An important part of the religion is to convert non believers - numbers are everything and it accelerates the converter's path to paradise. Thus the law in so many of these countries, proscribing death or severe penalty for leaving the religion.
It's also incorrect to label all locals as you have. There are many who have a genuine belief in that way of life, and who don't partake in the activities you mention.
I believe new CC are still subject to a tour of the city's cultural highlights, including a visit to a mosque, where a western convert talks up the religion and suggests it strongly as a way of life. I can remember being told of this by CC. The GN newspaper used to have an annual boast of how many 'embraced' the religion. Never mentioning those forced to do so by the law as a result of marriage. This is a society, and company, in which those belonging to that religion are treated far more favourably than non believers.
I'm not arguing your other points, but it's best to be factual.
It's also incorrect to label all locals as you have.
where a western convert talks up the religion and suggests it strongly as a way of life
The only westerner I ever witnessed convert to Islam started wearing a Kandora and handing out warning letters from behind the desk of the CP Boeing Fleet. Think it didn't last that long before he was caught with his religious contemporaries paying for services at the York Hotel...? mmmm...
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Mr. Good Cat. I don't want to labour a point, which is insignificant to most people.
However, the religion in that part of the world is a state controlled entity. It is an integral part of the society - it is the legal system, and it is an effective means of controlling people. To compare it to other religions is to show it a lack of understanding. You need only look at what happens to those who try to leave it. Are you aware that you can have your jail sentence reduced and often suspended if you convert. Many of those who have worked, and still work there, can tell you of people who behave in the way you mention - booze etc., but come ramadan, they fast, abstain from carnal activities, adhere strictly to iftar timings, and play the game. Makes no moral sense to most of us, and we tend to see things morally. If you look at it through a western lens, a lot of the behaviour will never make sense - that is probably why the west will never understand their culture enough to integrate them.
Originally posted by 'vfenext'. Quote, 'Sonoma, what rock did you crawl out from? Utter and complete BS of a post.'
Your one liner was derogatory, but devoid of any factual rebuttal. Why not give a reason for your nasty remark? Correct me if you think I'm wrong, but at least have something constructive to say.
What I stated above is based on personal experience and that of people I know. Most of the ‘locals’ I worked with were lovely people and loyal to the principles of their culture. There were others from around the region with whom I worked, who followed the practices I mention above.
In free cultures we back up our positions with facts. You seem to make it a habit to be abusive to posters with whom you disagree, and usually without taking a position on the topic.
However, the religion in that part of the world is a state controlled entity. It is an integral part of the society - it is the legal system, and it is an effective means of controlling people. To compare it to other religions is to show it a lack of understanding. You need only look at what happens to those who try to leave it. Are you aware that you can have your jail sentence reduced and often suspended if you convert. Many of those who have worked, and still work there, can tell you of people who behave in the way you mention - booze etc., but come ramadan, they fast, abstain from carnal activities, adhere strictly to iftar timings, and play the game. Makes no moral sense to most of us, and we tend to see things morally. If you look at it through a western lens, a lot of the behaviour will never make sense - that is probably why the west will never understand their culture enough to integrate them.
Originally posted by 'vfenext'. Quote, 'Sonoma, what rock did you crawl out from? Utter and complete BS of a post.'
Your one liner was derogatory, but devoid of any factual rebuttal. Why not give a reason for your nasty remark? Correct me if you think I'm wrong, but at least have something constructive to say.
What I stated above is based on personal experience and that of people I know. Most of the ‘locals’ I worked with were lovely people and loyal to the principles of their culture. There were others from around the region with whom I worked, who followed the practices I mention above.
In free cultures we back up our positions with facts. You seem to make it a habit to be abusive to posters with whom you disagree, and usually without taking a position on the topic.
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Emirates flight attendant was asked for sex in exchange for better roster?
Emirates flight attendant was asked for sex in exchange for better roster
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ZEDs after retirement
If one leaves the company prior to "normal retirement age" the retiree TRIPS page offers SRCs only. Once one crosses normal retirement age one should expect to be able to book ZEDs. Does anyone have any experience with that transition? Does a tab making ZEDs available magically appear in TRIPS after your landmark birthday or did you have to make application in order for ZEDs to become available?
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Repatriation Cargo
Any advise with repatriation cargo allowance and procedure?
Brought some stuff by air +13y ago and need to take some stuff back.
Who pays for it?
Should I use discounted freight before handing in my resignation instead?
Not exactly on EK network but 30min flight time from one.
Thanks
Brought some stuff by air +13y ago and need to take some stuff back.
Who pays for it?
Should I use discounted freight before handing in my resignation instead?
Not exactly on EK network but 30min flight time from one.
Thanks
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Any advise with repatriation cargo allowance and procedure?
Brought some stuff by air +13y ago and need to take some stuff back.
Who pays for it?
Should I use discounted freight before handing in my resignation instead?
Not exactly on EK network but 30min flight time from one.
Thanks
Brought some stuff by air +13y ago and need to take some stuff back.
Who pays for it?
Should I use discounted freight before handing in my resignation instead?
Not exactly on EK network but 30min flight time from one.
Thanks
You can use your EK discounted freight allowance up to one month after your last day in the company.
No need to book it before you have resigned.
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Quick question regarding Criminal Record Check/Letter of good conduct for UK.
Do you have have to name the organisation thats doing the background check on behalf of the airline you're joining or nominate the airline itself?
Thank you
Do you have have to name the organisation thats doing the background check on behalf of the airline you're joining or nominate the airline itself?
Thank you
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Some EK ex-crew say they subtely try to interest them to convert to islam by taking them to visit a mosque where a convert comes and talks about their conversion inspiration, is it true?
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Some EK ex-crew say they subtely try to interest them to convert to islam by taking them to visit a mosque where a convert comes and talks about their conversion inspiration, is it true?
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Can anyone enlighten me on potential pitfalls of getting your provident fund check on your last day rather than having the company bank wire the money after you've left? I see that others have taken the check and cashed it at the bank in EGHQ and then wire the money themselves. I've never once cashed a check in the UAE so am unsure of the process. Can someone tell me what personal ID they'll need to see to cash a check, particularly at a bank that isn't (and never was) my own bank. I'm a little uncertain what documents I'll still have in my possession at this point in the process. I could envision a real Dubai experience of trying to cash a check using a UAE ID that I no longer possess, a passport turned in for processing, and my repatriation airplane warming up on the ramp without me in it.....
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Buford,
I opened an US dollar account, took the cheque and transferred it to the account otherwise they rip you off with the exchange rate.
My redemption money I received 7 or 8 months later after a zillion of emails.
I opened an US dollar account, took the cheque and transferred it to the account otherwise they rip you off with the exchange rate.
My redemption money I received 7 or 8 months later after a zillion of emails.
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Update on the "letter of good conduct" I went to Port Rashid police station, no queues, very friendly and efficient lady, 220Aed, picture was not required as they had one on file (not sure how).
The lady said I would receive the letter via email the next day, it was in my "inbox" 2 hours later.
As simple as that...
The lady said I would receive the letter via email the next day, it was in my "inbox" 2 hours later.
As simple as that...
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I'm sure they will, but at what rate do they charge you if you take your leave balance early in the year and then resign. I assume they'll want to be reimbursed.
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Whairdhugo,
You must be one of the rare person to hand in your resignation with a negative leave balance ;-)
In answer to your question, I would imagine that its calculated at the same rate as cashing leave in
i.e.: basic monthly salary x 12 divided by 365 equals your daily rate x amount of days you owe them?
STD, your dependants visa are linked to your visa, if your visa is cancelled so is theirs, they would have to stay on a visit visa and do a visa run every so often...
You must be one of the rare person to hand in your resignation with a negative leave balance ;-)
In answer to your question, I would imagine that its calculated at the same rate as cashing leave in
i.e.: basic monthly salary x 12 divided by 365 equals your daily rate x amount of days you owe them?
STD, your dependants visa are linked to your visa, if your visa is cancelled so is theirs, they would have to stay on a visit visa and do a visa run every so often...
