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Nice try Don..... but all I was doing was quoting what is published on these sites:
Our Fleet - Boeing 777-300ER - Emirates SkyCargo
Our Fleet - Airbus 380-800 - Emirates SkyCargo
Did you even look at them?
If you look at the published "cargo tonnage" comparison...
B77W = 16.7-23.0
A380 = 8.0
About your 20t v 66t payload available..... I cannot comment. I go on what is published.
But, as a technique.........
Not my Circus....
Not my monkeys....
(Sincere apologies for the thread-drift....... sometimes, you just cannot sit on your hands long enough.)
Bart,
I will type slowly to help you understand.
On flights where the 777 can carry it's full payload, it will carry much more cargo than a 380. And it does so very efficiently. But the 380 carries another 166 pax.
When the 777 flies more than 12 hrs, it has to offload payload to onload fuel (with me so far?). So when it flies (flew to) BNE, for example, or 14hrs, it is only carrying 42 to 47t, depending on time of year. On these flights do you still think it's carrying 16.7 to 23t with a full pax payload as stated. Now Nolimit likes to mention how the 380s lack of cargo is hurting LAX. Hmm, 16hr flight, the 380 is still carrying 60t of payload, and the 777 is back to 35 to 42t. Have a guess which one the cargo is on?
Now I know you don't believe me. In fact you may be reliving that horror of finding out Santa does not not exist. But you can check for yaself. Ask the Capt to show you the load sheet. Subtract the DOW from the ZFW. That's how much stuff you are carrying to pay for the flight. The load sheet also shows pax weight, which is pax weight without bags. It shows cargo weight, and this includes the baggage weight.
Now that's not technique, but just how it's done. You should have an understanding of this before your command. But, that hasn't seemed to hold others back.
Now, do try and calm down. I am sure it's not your fault you don't understand these things as no one told you.
The don
I will type slowly to help you understand.
On flights where the 777 can carry it's full payload, it will carry much more cargo than a 380. And it does so very efficiently. But the 380 carries another 166 pax.
When the 777 flies more than 12 hrs, it has to offload payload to onload fuel (with me so far?). So when it flies (flew to) BNE, for example, or 14hrs, it is only carrying 42 to 47t, depending on time of year. On these flights do you still think it's carrying 16.7 to 23t with a full pax payload as stated. Now Nolimit likes to mention how the 380s lack of cargo is hurting LAX. Hmm, 16hr flight, the 380 is still carrying 60t of payload, and the 777 is back to 35 to 42t. Have a guess which one the cargo is on?
Now I know you don't believe me. In fact you may be reliving that horror of finding out Santa does not not exist. But you can check for yaself. Ask the Capt to show you the load sheet. Subtract the DOW from the ZFW. That's how much stuff you are carrying to pay for the flight. The load sheet also shows pax weight, which is pax weight without bags. It shows cargo weight, and this includes the baggage weight.
Now that's not technique, but just how it's done. You should have an understanding of this before your command. But, that hasn't seemed to hold others back.
Now, do try and calm down. I am sure it's not your fault you don't understand these things as no one told you.
The don
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It's a bit like listening to 2 RTA taxi drivers deliberate over who has the best wheels rather than discuss what's really wrong with their situation. Maybe pontificating on whose machine is better takes your mind off the fact that you're all doing a mind-numbing, unhealthy job while being treated like a 7 year old both at work and in Dubai at large. Nothing like missing the big picture.
Sounds good Bart. Always happy to help.
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