777 Captains to 380 again

[Shangaan]

A bit off topic.....
I See Emirates 100th B777-300ER just rolled out of the factory at Paine Field. I believe it will be A6-ENV.
Good day mates

[nakbin330]

If there are not enough volunteers for the 380, juniority will mean that the DECs employed in 2008 will be the first to go. 777s loss, 380s gain ...

[fliion]

Not scientific...but anyone I've spoken to at the 8-10Yr+ on property - all seem to want it due days off and the likely increase in regional duties of T7 crew.

I think this one will go pretty senior.

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[HarryDunne]

I'd say that's fairly accurate fliion; trust me, you don't want to regularly operate into Kabul, Trivandrum, anywhere in Pakistan and exclusively fly in darkness. If you senior 777 guys take an educated guess at what your rosters will look like in the next couple of years then I can't see any junior skippers getting a chance at swapping fleets.
There are, of course, quite a few destinations around the Gulf and larger airports in India the 380 will go to, however if you look at our route map and still want the roster you've had for last 8 years of so, it's an easy decision.
Having said that, you may find that you enjoy being home more regularly when doing mostly turnarounds, I certainly do. I'm not as chronically fatigued as I was going through so many time zones and I most definitely don't miss taking the 340 West one week then East the next with no chance to get your head straight.
It comes down to a lifestyle choice.
Harry

[Wizofoz]

Well, as someone who MIGHT be around about in the frame to go over if I chose to, I do agree that it is probably at the point where the 380 is a better lifestyle, and it certainly serves places I want to go more regularly.

But it would mean that, as someone pushing 50, my first Airbus type rating would be LHS on the Big Bus, complete with the egos and company expectations that entails.

I'm not saying never, but right now that seems like a huge pain in the arse!!

[donpizmeov]

Wiz,
If it hurts your arse your doing it the wrong.

The don

[fliion]

Wiz

You may not have to worry - judging from latest email the OMA can apparently be amended by a "notes" addendum in an email. See note 1. (Which does not comply with 20.10.12 para 3 - as that is based on supposition of no interest.)

Keep discovering.

: /

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[donpizmeov]

I hear ya Royston.

Am not sure if it's true, but was told it was to manage a surplus on the 777. Seems loss of long stay ULR has left the fleet with too many Captains.

Hard to believe when everyone is flying max hours.

[JAYTO]

Hard to believe when they are still doing upgrades.


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[Rather Be Skiing]

Originally Posted by donpizmeov

I hear ya Royston. Am not sure if it's true, but was told it was to manage a surplus on the 777. Seems loss of long stay ULR has left the fleet with too many Captains. Hard to believe when everyone is flying max hours.

Hard to believe when they are looking for additional 777 Training Capt because they anticipate increased demand upcoming.

[fatbus]

Not upcoming demand but trainers leaving,don't get too excited. 777 upgrades and new hire intake has slowed .transferring 777 Capt's to the 380 does two things provide a small number of upgrades at the same time as managing the surplus.

[glofish]

It's unfair to the 340 blokes. They deserve the transition.

Could i apply? Yes
Would i? No

Happy?

[airbusgirl66]

Completely agree with you glofish.

[The Turtle]

Another blow to the morale of the 340 people.

Shameful

[Wizofoz]

If they want 777 pilots to transfer, they get 777 pilots, even if they have to draft them.

Yes it's unfair to the 330/340 pilots, but if you want to go and don't, all you are doing is meaning they will NOW be unfair to a junior 777 pilot that doesn't want to transfer.

If NOT going helped out the likes of airbus girl, I wouldn't even think of it (I'm not anyway!!) but unfortunately it doesn't.

[lowstandard]

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I don't care about doing a course, route structure, quality of life, Boeing v Airbus, payload or anything really.

Just the thought of a more comfortable chair is enough to make a person express their interest all over the 380.

Love my tractor, hate the seat.

[Rather Be Skiing]

Originally Posted by fatbus

Not upcoming demand but trainers leaving,don't get too excited. 777 upgrades and new hire intake has slowed .transferring 777 Capt's to the 380 does two things provide a small number of upgrades at the same time as managing the surplus.

Thanks for the clarification. I was going by the FCN which stated 2015 training projections necessitated in increase in trainer numbers.

Silly me.

[White Sausage]

Problem is, if you do the move from 777 to 380, you are stuck here for life. There are no jobs for a 380 driver as opposed to dozens on the 777 outside of EK. I rather keep my chances for a plan B even though the 777 seats and the terrible noise are killing me.
Happy to be corrected though...

[palm]

So true WS, the move is a one way ticket to no where....the 777-x will be the killer in a few years. The 380 is a dead horse, a NO plan B solution in case something goes wrong...

No thank you,

[White Knight]

Originally Posted by nolimitholdem

Why do the 380 captains always seem to be short little fat fellas?

You sure about that?

Originally Posted by glofish

Could i apply? Yes
Would i? No

No problem; don't think we'd want you anyway...