ORD 27 hr layover
short flights long nights
I would like to know how they work that out!
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ULR Rest
Have a look at GCAA Publication CAAP14 ULR, section 7(c). Its on their website, and seems to require a minimum 48 hr layover, so not sure how 27 hr works. Maybe I'm missing something, open to correction.
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Don't know about the GCAA, but the FAA have a 40-48 hour rule for US operators of ULRs (16hrs). The problem is that you're allowed to 'buy' your way out of the procedure by paying a financial penalty to roster only 24 hour layovers between ULRs.
At present only Delta Airlines is complying with the 48-hour rule, unless things have changed the last couple of years...
At present only Delta Airlines is complying with the 48-hour rule, unless things have changed the last couple of years...
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In reality 22hrs in place of rest with 33ish in the tube...allowing only one long proper sleep in a 55hr period.
$afety starting to sound like lip $ervice around here.
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$afety starting to sound like lip $ervice around here.
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http://www.gcaa.gov.ae/en/Pages/BoardOfDirectors.aspx
http://www.emirates.com/sg/english/a...en_letter.aspx .
Careful FireB , some here are very particular and sensitive demanding 100 % accuracy and seem to miss the point .
http://www.emirates.com/sg/english/a...en_letter.aspx .
Careful FireB , some here are very particular and sensitive demanding 100 % accuracy and seem to miss the point .
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Is it legal or not? If not notify the FAA . If it is then put it to rest. In other words sh!t or get off the pot. It does not matter what you as pilots think is the right way to operate a ULR. Is it legal or not period .
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.... or fly the pairing and if it actually feels like being unsafe -> have the balls to call fatigued and don't fly back!
I guess i'll be well into retirement to see that happening.
I guess i'll be well into retirement to see that happening.
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Following extract is from GCAA CAAP14 - ULR, section 7 -
(c) ULR Flight Rest Period Away from Base
In the ULR Rostered Duty Assignment, the scheduled period free of flying duties away from base shall be at least 48 hours.
Seems pretty clear to me.....
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(c) ULR Flight Rest Period Away from Base
In the ULR Rostered Duty Assignment, the scheduled period free of flying duties away from base shall be at least 48 hours.
Seems pretty clear to me.....
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Last edited by 777boyo; 6th Jul 2014 at 01:20. Reason: Duplication of content
BA had this problem years ago. Although LAX and SFO was classed as a West Coast operation SEA wasn't even though all three are UTC - 8. Is this a debate block time v time change? Management will always say block times count for financial reasons.
And please get it fixed before the 380 has to take it 
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