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Old 29th Mar 2014, 09:17
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Back off guys, B19 is my bay!!

Just write a CSR and make reference to FCOM requirements!!
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Old 29th Mar 2014, 14:20
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Put your handbags back into the cupboard ladies!!

Just tick the box that you actually did such a stint. Who will want to check us on that? The administrative and controlling work outweighs the potential gain of two more blokes shutting down a donkey for 10" more by a factor 10.
When someone contacts you on that matter, just pretend it was a mistake, that you will never show such criminal behaviour again and everybody is happy in the Costa.

Silly posts deserve silly reactions.
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Old 29th Mar 2014, 15:45
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Moto

The CCI pages are not binding, legal or updated, they amount to nothing more than a shopping or Christmas wish list. They will not hold up in a court of law, however the AOI via LIDO will and this is what the company will cower behind when the operating captain kills someone with jet blast.

Stick with what is written via a legal avenue and THEN apply your common sense, airmanship and experience when AND IF you make the decision to reduce your thrust by half (or increase the amount needed by 2).

You will notice the SVP did not change the policy via the an FCI which is the legal route...he is not dumb enough to expose himself to be liable from a legal point of view.
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Old 29th Mar 2014, 16:05
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Moto CCI's are an EK doc, you may not be aware that Iron Ass is not EK.
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Old 30th Mar 2014, 03:55
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I read this (ridiculous) company notam a different way maybe - they just don't want people putting "operational" under the reason for not SE taxiing. I will therefore just write in the reason for not doing with reference to FCOM requirements - simples!
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Old 30th Mar 2014, 05:13
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Its really quite simple. You shutdown one (or two if u have 4) 1' or 1 metre before you stop, your choice. I've done that many times, and it will comply with the Co-Notam. No paperwork, nada.
Keep it simple habibis.

Now, did you hear about the latest gossip our erstwhile Deputy chief 777 Trainer. This guy is seriously teflon coated.

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Old 30th Mar 2014, 05:31
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How amusing...all those psychometric tests, group exercises, sim scenarios etc we go through during recruitment to prove our decision making and leadership yet the company does everything in its power to remove our ability to make any such decisions...

From my point of view on the A330 everybody I have flown with seems to have a practical and sensible outlook on SE taxi - if it's worthwhile we do it! But then again I have been writing "operational" on the back of VRs when we don't do it...
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Old 30th Mar 2014, 07:51
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Bootyshake...

Tell, tell...

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Old 30th Mar 2014, 08:01
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Where we he begin? Bandwidth would be limiting.
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Old 2nd Apr 2014, 05:43
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Chocked on last night and reached for the blank forms folder to fill out my mandatory CSR for not single-engine taxiing due to operational reasons (short taxi).. Second boat in 3 days with no CSR forms left
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Old 2nd Apr 2014, 06:18
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All is not Lost !

VP,
do not fret ! all is not lost !

just file an AS"R" for the lack of CS"R",
so to repeat what information is written on the V"R";
OR, await for new forms to be delivered before pushback, and then file a CD"R"
failing that, collect the CS"R" from the office after work, fill it out, crosscheck it matches with the V"R" ,....
and then last but not least, the completion of the Fatigue "R" ....

what were we talking about again?

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Old 2nd Apr 2014, 09:10
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But this is the whole point you don't need to fill in a CSR for short taxi-in as it's a FCOM Supplementary Procedure and not an operation reason.

So on the VR write down 2 engine taxi due to FCOM SP 1.24 or whatever it is instead of operational and then there is no requirement to fill in a CSR...

Or I have totally mis-read the note and need to get my coat?
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Old 2nd Apr 2014, 09:58
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Hi
The engines need to run 3 minutes at Idle, before shut down, for engine oil consideration.
Then I assume that Airmanship will suggest that you would have to stop to shut down one engine down, to make sure that brakes, Hyd, and Electrical are correctly configured for taxi, review ECAM or EICAS, then Taxi.
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Old 2nd Apr 2014, 10:59
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Running the engines for 3 minutes at idle is a recommendation only, not a limitation.
Don't get me wrong i'm not advocating 1 eng taxi inside of 3 minutes.
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Old 2nd Apr 2014, 13:48
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Highlow,

I think I've decided a 'CHFR' is required due to the stress induced after the conundrum of whether I should 'ASR' the lack of 'CSR'.

Unfortunately my taxi in took 4 minutes so operationally I decided I was too fatigued to send myself asymmetric whilst on final to the stand.. Guess I will have to do the 'FRMS R' too..
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Old 2nd Apr 2014, 16:22
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Oh Shucks...I've been filing the wrong CSR report per OMA

"11.6.4.1 Confidential Safety Report (CSR) For air crew (Flight Crew and Cabin Crew), the confidential reporting system is provided through the paper-based Confidential Safety Report System. All Confidential Safety Reports are de-identified by a nominated facilitator (who is not a member of the management team) and who is the only person who can identify the reporter.

Please refer to the SMS Manual and the GSPM for further details of the Confidential Reporting System."

Now I need to find out WTF is the SMS & GSPM ... Back in in a sec..

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Old 2nd Apr 2014, 19:24
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Which has priority

Does a Company Notam have priority over your OM-A. Usually most companies list a pecking order for such publications. Also, a Captains Special Report does not sound like the right way to send this type of information. Usually this type of report is listed as something that should be done not must be done. I would be surprised if the EK OM-A listed CSRs as required.
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Old 7th Apr 2014, 14:44
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I see the Company NOTAM has been reviewed and now states that the reason for not complying should be written on the VR. Either the feedback worked or the mountain of CSRs that needed processing caused a rethink. Why don't the people who write these things think a bit before publishing them.

If a trainer makes more than four mistakes in a year with the extremely user unfriendly OGS he gets assigned a day long report writing course for his sins. What happens to the people who put out this garbage and have to subsequently retract or amend it?

No answer required it was a rhetorical question.
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Old 7th Apr 2014, 17:30
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What happens to the people who put out this garbage and have to subsequently retract or amend it?
1. a promotion according to the Peter's principle
2. a double bonus plus triple profit share
3. a Nadjim award
4. or a lifelong guarantee of staying where he f@rts, whatever he messes up
5. a fidelity card of the Costas next door
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