Please read this about qatar airways. Its sick.
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GR - Dead wrong. I had a job with a European legacy and moved here out of choice. My old airline makes a healthy profit and is not in danger of shutting down.
I moved out here for myriad different reasons, I don't regret doing it having lived out here for a few years now and I would make the move again without hesitation.
There are plenty of people here in the UAE who are the same, while I think you have a point about Qatar, many people also want to broaden their horizons - I couldn't stand the thought of spending the entirety of my working life flying A320's around Europe.
You can't broaden your horizons much more than working out this way...
I moved out here for myriad different reasons, I don't regret doing it having lived out here for a few years now and I would make the move again without hesitation.
There are plenty of people here in the UAE who are the same, while I think you have a point about Qatar, many people also want to broaden their horizons - I couldn't stand the thought of spending the entirety of my working life flying A320's around Europe.
You can't broaden your horizons much more than working out this way...
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I work for QA and I'm happy believe it or not my suggestion try to find another job and leave for a greener place or if you can make it better just step out but coming here and moaning won't change anything.
I'm aware about the real picture and it really bother me in a way but I'm powerless, at one point you have your priority in my case I do what my OM says finish my job go home enjoy my family which is the most important for me I can take care of them and it's my duty I didn't come here to change AAB or QA but I'm sure it will change the question is when ?
Just relax take it easy try to make positif as much as you can knowing that it's not perfect.
Wish you all the best.
I'm aware about the real picture and it really bother me in a way but I'm powerless, at one point you have your priority in my case I do what my OM says finish my job go home enjoy my family which is the most important for me I can take care of them and it's my duty I didn't come here to change AAB or QA but I'm sure it will change the question is when ?
Just relax take it easy try to make positif as much as you can knowing that it's not perfect.
Wish you all the best.
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Choice of lifestyle
Well said. I have been in the GCC for nearly 18 years and the past few years in Asia. Do I want to go back to Europe. The answer is simply NO. Ok I agree Qatar or Saudi have not been my first choice but I lived in nicer GCC countries and I would not like to be back in Europe. Ghost Rider 737, its a personal choice of LIFESTYLE. You obviously never heard about it in your 50sqm backyard wherever you come from. Keep your stupid remarks to yourselve!
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One thing that I consider to be pretty bad about this new age of freeflow of so called "information" is that anybody can post anything without any checks and balances, I'm not saying that this is true or not...! What I'm saying is that all of us have heard horror stories about pretty much every job available out there, but we also hear stories about people that are pleased with the gig, I recently had dinner with a couple of Qatar Spanish cabin attendants in an overnight and they were pleased with the gig, one of them have been there for many years and horror stories didn't come up during the course of the evening. The fact remains that whenever they do an open house to look for cabin crews, hundreds show up. I tend to take all these disgruntled employee stories with a grain of salt.
I'm convinced ( but maybe I'm wrong)that AAB is very sensitive about the image of Q.A. Worldwide ( and about his image ..off course!).
I don't think he can remain insensitive for a long time against all the remarks and ( true)critics that have been raised by former or actual crew against him and the airline.(newspaper,articles,pprune.....)
We all known the truth.I do not believe one second that those courageous people who contacted The press just did it for " Fun", sure they have a serious issue to share.
But Unless he is willing to tarnish further more the image of Qatar Airways ,AAB has to change his attitude soon or later.( blaming the crew won't change anything).
I don't think he can remain insensitive for a long time against all the remarks and ( true)critics that have been raised by former or actual crew against him and the airline.(newspaper,articles,pprune.....)
We all known the truth.I do not believe one second that those courageous people who contacted The press just did it for " Fun", sure they have a serious issue to share.
But Unless he is willing to tarnish further more the image of Qatar Airways ,AAB has to change his attitude soon or later.( blaming the crew won't change anything).
He can't hide from scrutiny like the old days.
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If anybody thinks any other carrier or codeshare is going to give a rat's hiney about any of this you are delusional..call Greenpeace...unfortunately nobody cares.....
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In some people's eyes the rules are justifiable....in a previous employment post this person saw first hand what treating some cabin crew like adults turned into...out in the clubs until wee hours,many dragging their boyfriends back to the flat to live with them...others conducting "business" ..and the list goes on...
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Think you have been in the Middle ages much too long IB .
If they are having a problem , maybe it's because they hire immature individuals , but not surprising with a reported turnover of 300+ ccrew per month .
One's social life is not the concern of the Company ! What is wrong with clubs till the wee hours , as long as they have their rest and turn up for their duty . And if they don't , deal with the individuals who f**k up . Not try to control adults' lives .
Is it reasonable also to be imprisoned in the hotel 12 hours prior to pickup ??
To be confined to accommodation for up to 4 consecutive days while on SBY ?
To not be able to leave the country without permission , oops , neither can the pilots !
, but hey , this is why even western management love the atmosphere ..They can "manage"with impunity .
If they are having a problem , maybe it's because they hire immature individuals , but not surprising with a reported turnover of 300+ ccrew per month .
One's social life is not the concern of the Company ! What is wrong with clubs till the wee hours , as long as they have their rest and turn up for their duty . And if they don't , deal with the individuals who f**k up . Not try to control adults' lives .
Is it reasonable also to be imprisoned in the hotel 12 hours prior to pickup ??
To be confined to accommodation for up to 4 consecutive days while on SBY ?
To not be able to leave the country without permission , oops , neither can the pilots !
, but hey , this is why even western management love the atmosphere ..They can "manage"with impunity .
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many dragging their boyfriends back to the flat to live with them
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hi everyone...please no bashing as i am posting a matured content.
every company has its individual rules and regulations..following that QR has its own sets of rules. in fact QR RULES AND REGULATION is the most posted in pprune and the web.
NO BODY IS FORCED TO JOIN QR..but ALL does it free will...SO..WHY COMPLAIN AS u know what to aspect and what to do....
AND once u join THAT MEANS u are FREE WILLING to follow the company rules and regulations...
i for one dont see any basis for any more discussions on this issue. AND FOR SURE THE CEO OF THIS COMPANY DOESNT have to justify his company rules and regulations to anyone in this world......REMEMBER QA IS STILL A PRIVATE COMPANY....
happy flying everyone..and before anyone bashes me..i accepted to join QA free will based on all rules and regulations laid down....and i for once never complaint as i am willing to be subjected to those company rules....
every company has its individual rules and regulations..following that QR has its own sets of rules. in fact QR RULES AND REGULATION is the most posted in pprune and the web.
NO BODY IS FORCED TO JOIN QR..but ALL does it free will...SO..WHY COMPLAIN AS u know what to aspect and what to do....
AND once u join THAT MEANS u are FREE WILLING to follow the company rules and regulations...
i for one dont see any basis for any more discussions on this issue. AND FOR SURE THE CEO OF THIS COMPANY DOESNT have to justify his company rules and regulations to anyone in this world......REMEMBER QA IS STILL A PRIVATE COMPANY....
happy flying everyone..and before anyone bashes me..i accepted to join QA free will based on all rules and regulations laid down....and i for once never complaint as i am willing to be subjected to those company rules....
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Indianace! If we all have that attitude. We would still be living in a cave and eating with our hands. Seeing, admitting and correcting what is wrong, is moving forward. Don't you think?
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Glofish,
do you have a curfew telling you to be home at a certain time? No
do you have to ask permission to invite someone to stay over? No
do you have to ask a psychopath if you want to marry? No
do you have a curfew telling you to be home at a certain time? No
do you have to ask permission to invite someone to stay over? No
do you have to ask a psychopath if you want to marry? No
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Menikos,
Indeed we all hope thinks will change...
But with an attitude like yours ( "I'm powerless, I didn't come here to change Q.a.,moaning won't change anything.....".)thinks will never change.
Why did you come to QA ?
I'm convinced ( but maybe I'm wrong)that AAB is very sensitive about the image of Q.A. Worldwide ( and about his image ..off course!).
I don't think he can remain insensitive for a long time against all the remarks and ( true)critics that have been raised by former or actual crew against him and the airline.(newspaper,articles,pprune.....)
Will see.
We all known the truth.I do not believe one second that those courageous people who contacted The press just did it for " Fun", sure they have a serious issue to share.
You maybe right.
But Unless he is willing to tarnish further more the image of Qatar Airways ,AAB has to change his attitude soon or later.( blaming the crew won't change anything).
100% true.
Well this is just my 2 cents feeling..
Like I said when I joined QA my point was to have a job it's far to be perfect but as long as I can take care of my family it's fine.
I totally agree with you that many things has to be changed but complaining is not the right way I don't think if you work for QA that your first intention was to change the company that why I'm saying I'm powerless you and me we are on a ejector seat (Under RP) so it's really difficult to use the means like union or whatever it has to be in another way.
Hopefully I'm sure it's going to change for the benefit of everyone on this company
Indeed we all hope thinks will change...
But with an attitude like yours ( "I'm powerless, I didn't come here to change Q.a.,moaning won't change anything.....".)thinks will never change.
Why did you come to QA ?
I'm convinced ( but maybe I'm wrong)that AAB is very sensitive about the image of Q.A. Worldwide ( and about his image ..off course!).
I don't think he can remain insensitive for a long time against all the remarks and ( true)critics that have been raised by former or actual crew against him and the airline.(newspaper,articles,pprune.....)
Will see.
We all known the truth.I do not believe one second that those courageous people who contacted The press just did it for " Fun", sure they have a serious issue to share.
You maybe right.
But Unless he is willing to tarnish further more the image of Qatar Airways ,AAB has to change his attitude soon or later.( blaming the crew won't change anything).
100% true.
Well this is just my 2 cents feeling..
Like I said when I joined QA my point was to have a job it's far to be perfect but as long as I can take care of my family it's fine.
I totally agree with you that many things has to be changed but complaining is not the right way I don't think if you work for QA that your first intention was to change the company that why I'm saying I'm powerless you and me we are on a ejector seat (Under RP) so it's really difficult to use the means like union or whatever it has to be in another way.
Hopefully I'm sure it's going to change for the benefit of everyone on this company
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And it's amazing how people misunderstood what has been said about QA, I challenge you to find one word coming from my mouth justifying such a treatment.
In the other hand as I'm a very nice person
I'll say that's because english is not my mother language so maybe my way of express myself is not that good to make you believe what I never said and will never say.
Take care
In the other hand as I'm a very nice person
I'll say that's because english is not my mother language so maybe my way of express myself is not that good to make you believe what I never said and will never say.Take care
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I think that the CEO just need some counseling.I have seen strict airline regulations but this one just takes the cake! I do believe that employees should abide to certain rules and conditions but locking them up...Well that's another story.You would expect that to happen in Saudia thou.Regulations there are much more decent for CC compared ! inside the compound that is 
P.S Emirates is hiring
P.S Emirates is hiring
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Funny Funny
Morning Folks,
Just had a quick look on the middle threats, haven't been logged in since long
Still the same discussions, about blablabla
What changed and what will change in qr? Nothing, especially with some people like indianace, the name alone stands already for everything - I don't care what r u thinking now indianace
Nothing will change here, it's all about money, despite more and more is leaking out, yes, they might start caring about their image, again, money talks and still they have enough applications, enough pilots are willing to come
And guys it's not all about the CEO, he cant be blamed for everything, I know, now some are thinking, is he drunk?, no am not, it's about the whole system being at the edge of collapsing, way too much paper work (hmmm, from which part of the world this might come???) u need for almost everything a letter, reports here, reports there, a multi million dollar bidding system, which doesn't work, because somebody is working behind and so on and so on
It's getting more and more crazy every day, no parking space, dangerous traffic, Doha very very very expensive ( didn't c the salary increasing accordingly) what else to mention?
So like indianace would say what to do what to do
Cheers to all
Just had a quick look on the middle threats, haven't been logged in since long
Still the same discussions, about blablabla
What changed and what will change in qr? Nothing, especially with some people like indianace, the name alone stands already for everything - I don't care what r u thinking now indianace
Nothing will change here, it's all about money, despite more and more is leaking out, yes, they might start caring about their image, again, money talks and still they have enough applications, enough pilots are willing to come
And guys it's not all about the CEO, he cant be blamed for everything, I know, now some are thinking, is he drunk?, no am not, it's about the whole system being at the edge of collapsing, way too much paper work (hmmm, from which part of the world this might come???) u need for almost everything a letter, reports here, reports there, a multi million dollar bidding system, which doesn't work, because somebody is working behind and so on and so on
It's getting more and more crazy every day, no parking space, dangerous traffic, Doha very very very expensive ( didn't c the salary increasing accordingly) what else to mention?
So like indianace would say what to do what to do
Cheers to all
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