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Old 27th Jan 2014, 09:32
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Willie, i have no doubt that the CS300 will be an awesome aircraft, but this thread is about a "new airline" that is basing its fleet strategy on a new aircraft that isn't expected to enter service before 2015.

Read this today, it appears that QR are following the tried and trusted method of starting an airline......

Al Maha would be a full-service carrier and have a mix of single- and twin-aisle aircraft, diverted from the parent airline’s outstanding orders from Boeing and Airbus. However, the new airline’s initial batch of around 10 aircraft would be leased, to allow rapid service entry.

Al-Maha will have about 25 aircraft in service before Saudi Gulf gets their 1st aircraft, they will then be forced to play catch-up.
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Old 27th Jan 2014, 09:37
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I suspect they will start ops with some wet-leased aircraft for an interim period until the C series is delivered...
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Old 27th Jan 2014, 11:42
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They've already stated that they'll be leasing some aircraft in the interim until they get the C series. Exactly the same plan as Al-Maha. The 320s that QR have on order are the NEOs that are not slated for delivery until 2015, the same time that the Bombardier is expected to debut.
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Old 27th Jan 2014, 16:01
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If the CEO Mr.M operated like he did with gulf air,it may not prosper.Outsourcing most of the services may actually be bad for Saudi Gulf Airline.Correct me if I'm wrong,it will be like a government funded Qatar Airways vs Government backed Saudia vs a privately owned Saudi Gulf.Saudi Arabia is an amazing market to be at the moment but it didn't work out for Sama airline now did it?
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Old 27th Jan 2014, 20:30
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QATAR Airways wants a more reliable 130pax aircraft?

Go with the new Embraer 195 E2!

Based on the actual Embraer E190, the E2 will be a very reliable machine, with huge improvements in economics.

Comparing the backlog of the E190 E2 vs CS100/300, we could see that the CS100/300 is a shame... and the Embraer E2 is a great success.

The Embraer E2 is the best aircraft in this range of 100-132pax.
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Old 28th Jan 2014, 00:21
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That settles it then... Embraer it is.
Let's sound the death knell for Bombardier.
While we're at it, ATR is kicking Bombardier's ass as well as Embraer, aren't they?

Time will tell whether airlines prefer new, state-of-the-art, clean sheet designs OR older models with a face lift, a new hair cut, and a makeup makeover (so to speak).
I notice the Gulf airlines seem to only buy "the latest", like the A380 over the 74-8. The 777 when it first came out. Now the A350. All clean sheet designs. 787.

It all remains to be seen.
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Old 18th Mar 2014, 21:06
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I am currently a sim instructor. Where can I apply?

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Old 18th Mar 2014, 21:47
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Seriously does this company have a website?
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Old 18th Mar 2014, 23:09
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The just ordered 4x A320's to start their operation in 2015, I doubt that they will have a website until later this year or next.
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Old 25th Dec 2014, 01:38
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What happened to them ? so their plan was cancelled ?
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Old 9th Feb 2015, 02:06
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I think that Saudigulf airlines will never start operation
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Old 9th Feb 2015, 03:40
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I think that Saudigulf airlines will never start operation
Not true!Their aircraft is already undergoing final checks and will be delivered in a few weeks time.Check out the link
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Old 13th Feb 2015, 23:02
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Yes but they don't even have a website.. do you have any more info about them ? Nice colours by the way
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Old 13th Feb 2015, 23:33
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Although the aircraft are going to be delivered in 1Q 2015 I don't see them starting ops this quarter definitely.Like you said they don't have a website nor have they begun their recruitment.
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Old 14th Feb 2015, 13:35
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I would expect that the aircraft was ordered and delivered based on an optimistic timeline to start operations, unfortunately they might have discovered that starting an airline in Saudi isn't the easiest thing to do
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Old 14th Feb 2015, 16:23
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QR just made a statement about their new operation al maha. They also already have the aircraft painted. But AAB said last December that it could take up to 18 months due to beurocratic tie up. I'm assuming the same must be true about Saudi gulf.
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Old 19th Feb 2015, 03:29
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Its just been announced that saudi gulf launch has been postponed towards the end of the year!
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Old 11th Oct 2015, 03:00
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It seems that they will start in 2016
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Old 11th Oct 2015, 08:41
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Are you talking about the Gregorian or Hegira calendar ??

Rumour has it that Al-Maha have given up their attempts to get an AOC.
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had heard the same about al Maha..and strange rumblings routes/rights for Saudi Gulf being absorbed by Nas
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