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Old 26th Apr 2012, 07:30   #1 (permalink)
 
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EK Hold Pool (FO's)

Starting this thread for anyone who has received the email offer, but no course date yet. Or anyone at EK who might have some inside info, and can share some info.

Interviewed in Feb, and it seems like (bar a couple of Bus rated guys who were given CCQ courses in June) everyone from this time has been put on hold for the full course dates. EK have promised a course date in 1 to 2 weeks again! But this would be the 3rd time of promising, and it would be nice to have a little bit more info.

I am guessing that they are prioritising the remaining course slots for DEC, who seem to be being offered courses for June & July. The last FO course position I heard of being offered before this 'freeze' was August.

Or is it the availability of courses that is the problem, as they appear to outsource and thus could be renegotiating the contracts with these institutions?

If they are going to wait until the DEC positions have gone through before hiring FOs again, does anyone have an accurate idea on the DEC numbers? Last I heard was 75 positions open to offer on this round. Have they been running the interviews every week again for the DECs? (same as they were for the FO's). Or will they run the rating courses for FO & Capt side by side, and thus split the allocation of course dates each month.

Seems to me everything recruitment wise has been frozen on the FO side, no selection or PSP days since end of FEB. Seems strange considering recruitment said they would need 500+ again this year?
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Old 26th Apr 2012, 08:38   #2 (permalink)
 
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Kerniw,

Hiring 120 DEC for now. Might change.

All of the planning of the near future courses will probably change due to delays in the A380 deliveries. Looks like EK will take any further 380 deliveries until a final fix is found for the wing problems. This will likely affect the whole hiring plan.
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Old 26th Apr 2012, 09:18   #3 (permalink)
 
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Swimming since early March. Same info as you Kernow.
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Old 26th Apr 2012, 10:10   #4 (permalink)
 
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'Swimming' since late march with same info as you guys
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Old 26th Apr 2012, 10:35   #5 (permalink)
 
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Were the precise words "promised" actually used?

Slow down probably due shortage of trainers, simulators and no doubt a priority on DEC's.
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Old 26th Apr 2012, 10:42   #6 (permalink)
 
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Were the precise words "promised" actually used?
No, those are my words.

Don't get me wrong, I am not complaining. Just looking for an avenue to share more info between others in the same position, and maybe gain some from current EK employees.
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Old 26th Apr 2012, 12:58   #7 (permalink)
 
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The upside of your situation is you get to enjoy the civilised* roads, civilised service, civilised behaviour and all the rest of the benefits of home for that little bit longer.
Your right, depends on where you are coming from..............currently in one of Europe's largest countries and enjoy none of the above Except cheap wine
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Old 26th Apr 2012, 13:15   #8 (permalink)
 
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The roads and infrastructure come at a cost... 40% of my gross income to tax... I'll take the heat! But would miss that winter deep freeze at -25C... You'll probably find me at the indoor ski hill in shorts and sandals...
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Old 26th Apr 2012, 15:54   #9 (permalink)
 
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+1

Got my interview in Dubai in late February, same couple of emails received, the last one about being sent an update "in 2/3 weeks" (thats was 4 weeks ago)

Let's wait and see although it would be nice to have a rough idea of the waiting time ahead of us

jj
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Old 26th Apr 2012, 22:00   #10 (permalink)
 
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Waiting course date

I was Hired in March, and received another email saying 1-2 more weeks for course date. From what I gathered the DEC are getting worked through first. From the CC that interviewed me, he said it is a nightmare, due to there high standards for DEC's.

Patiently waiting
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Old 29th Apr 2012, 21:44   #11 (permalink)
 
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Passed PSP in early february and just got an email today giving me a course start date for the bus in late august. Hooray
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Old 30th Apr 2012, 06:57   #12 (permalink)
 
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Congrats smiler. Was that for the full course? Or CCQ.

I just got another delay email yesterday
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Old 30th Apr 2012, 07:19   #13 (permalink)
 
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Hi Kernow,

Got same as you. Did you put 777 as your preference? I did so can only assume those are full for now and thats why we are waiting. Never mind, don't mind waiting a bit longer if i get a Boeing.
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Old 30th Apr 2012, 07:43   #14 (permalink)
 
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Didn't really discuss preference in the interview, as they said everyone was going on Bus until after summer. I said that was fine, so I guess they put me down as Bus? (currently 737)
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Old 30th Apr 2012, 09:33   #15 (permalink)
 
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Got the same delay email yesterday.

I was there in late Feb so I guess nothing until September earliest for me.
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Old 1st May 2012, 20:28   #16 (permalink)
 
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Heard a rumour that EK are refusing anymore 380 deliveries until the compensation issue and current inspection cycle is addressed? (is it true there is currently a 27 day inspection after every 100 cycles?)
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Old 1st May 2012, 22:23   #17 (permalink)
 
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Also swimming.

Has anyone had any luck contacting HR? My emails get no reply.

It was all one big rush in Dubai " we need you now" , kind of takes the shine off with the 'wait out' emails.
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Old 2nd May 2012, 04:34   #18 (permalink)
 
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I do know that if you are 'bus rated, you may be awaiting their new "short conversion" course thats being formulated as we speak...hence the dunk in the pool for a bit....
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Old 2nd May 2012, 04:46   #19 (permalink)
 
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Ah, things change every 5 mins ! Yup A321 is my transport. Cheers for the info.
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Old 3rd May 2012, 22:38   #20 (permalink)


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Still waiting patiently!

Samo samo,

Successfully completed my PSP early March in Dubai.
Boeing widebody rated. Had two emails thus far from HR indicating their optimism to set a course date, but due to 'operational changes', this has been delayed. Last email from EK 29th April.
Haven't made any attempt to contact them. I'm sure they'll get around to letting us know when our number comes up.
Hope you get the planes you want.
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