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Hi Don,
Presumably anyone who is required to take a 330/340 position to accommodate these moves have already been notified and selected, therefore we can assume that everyone in the pool will stay there for the immediate future? Any more 380 courses after the one you mention in Aug? Just trying to figure out if there is any hope for any of us this side of Christmas.....
Presumably anyone who is required to take a 330/340 position to accommodate these moves have already been notified and selected, therefore we can assume that everyone in the pool will stay there for the immediate future? Any more 380 courses after the one you mention in Aug? Just trying to figure out if there is any hope for any of us this side of Christmas.....
flymaybe,
Courses are ongoing. One 380 a month until end of 2017 I think. 350 arrives 2014/15ish??? Rumours are still ongoing about direct entry FOs onto the 380, but don't know the time frame in which this will happen.
330s keep leaving and are planned to be all gone by mid to late 2014 I think. Early Boeings start to leave next year (30 to go by the end of year 2015). I am not sure but I think more 777 leave than arrive next year, I am sure someone will update this.
Good luck,
the Don
Courses are ongoing. One 380 a month until end of 2017 I think. 350 arrives 2014/15ish??? Rumours are still ongoing about direct entry FOs onto the 380, but don't know the time frame in which this will happen.
330s keep leaving and are planned to be all gone by mid to late 2014 I think. Early Boeings start to leave next year (30 to go by the end of year 2015). I am not sure but I think more 777 leave than arrive next year, I am sure someone will update this.
Good luck,
the Don
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"We thank you for your continued patience in awaiting news on your pending application following your successful completion of the selection process with Emirates.
The course plan for our Airbus Fleet has now been finalised and we are pleased that this week we offered positions to 24 candidates on the Airbus fleet to start in October and November. All these Airbus courses are CCQ (short) courses and therefore the candidates we offered places to all met the requirements to undergo a CCQ course here at Emirates. We offered positions to those that met the requirements and have been waiting longer than other candidates in the hold pool. At this stage we do not require any more First Officers to start on our Airbus Fleet for the remainder of the financial year.
In regards to our Boeing Fleet plan, the next courses we have planned for First Officers start in late January 2013. Therefore we are likely to start making some offers for those courses towards the end of September. We have not confirmed numbers at this stage.
As you have received this email, you continue to remain in a successful applicant pool from which we identify, select and fill our training courses to meet our Airline's training needs and fleet expansion plans. As you would be aware, Emirates is a rapidly expanding Airline and as a result, we experience change continually. It is possible then, that we may experience further changes to the above which could result in us requiring pilots to start sooner or later than we expect at this stage.
Please note your application currency is only valid for a period of one year from the date of completion of your selection programme, after which time if still interested, we would require you to reapply to us and you would need to be reassessed. The number of candidates in the applicant pool does exceed the expected number of new joining pilots this financial year. It is likely that we will not be able to offer all successful candidates a position before April 1st. Given the planned growth we have ahead of us though, our pilot numbers will undoubtedly continue to grow and therefore your desire to remain interested in a position with Emirates is important to us."
This part is at least frustrating. How can they invite you, pay you a f
business class seat to Dubai and the hotel, etc and then ooops we called more guys than we need. Such a lack planning.
The course plan for our Airbus Fleet has now been finalised and we are pleased that this week we offered positions to 24 candidates on the Airbus fleet to start in October and November. All these Airbus courses are CCQ (short) courses and therefore the candidates we offered places to all met the requirements to undergo a CCQ course here at Emirates. We offered positions to those that met the requirements and have been waiting longer than other candidates in the hold pool. At this stage we do not require any more First Officers to start on our Airbus Fleet for the remainder of the financial year.
In regards to our Boeing Fleet plan, the next courses we have planned for First Officers start in late January 2013. Therefore we are likely to start making some offers for those courses towards the end of September. We have not confirmed numbers at this stage.
As you have received this email, you continue to remain in a successful applicant pool from which we identify, select and fill our training courses to meet our Airline's training needs and fleet expansion plans. As you would be aware, Emirates is a rapidly expanding Airline and as a result, we experience change continually. It is possible then, that we may experience further changes to the above which could result in us requiring pilots to start sooner or later than we expect at this stage.
Please note your application currency is only valid for a period of one year from the date of completion of your selection programme, after which time if still interested, we would require you to reapply to us and you would need to be reassessed. The number of candidates in the applicant pool does exceed the expected number of new joining pilots this financial year. It is likely that we will not be able to offer all successful candidates a position before April 1st. Given the planned growth we have ahead of us though, our pilot numbers will undoubtedly continue to grow and therefore your desire to remain interested in a position with Emirates is important to us."
The number of candidates in the applicant pool does exceed the expected number of new joining pilots this financial year. It is likely that we will not be able to offer all successful candidates a position before April 1st.
business class seat to Dubai and the hotel, etc and then ooops we called more guys than we need. Such a lack planning.
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I will add even more frustrating when you're unemployed.
Definitely that Turkish Airlines interview will be now more important
Sadly some of us are forced to accept incoming interviews and of course, once a contract is signed with another carrier (probably bonded) our "wishes" to fly in Emirates will be just gone.
Definitely that Turkish Airlines interview will be now more important
Sadly some of us are forced to accept incoming interviews and of course, once a contract is signed with another carrier (probably bonded) our "wishes" to fly in Emirates will be just gone.
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Being unemployed is bad. I recall an email I/we received weeks ago from EK, explaining why they haven't called us yet and apologizing to have offered a job to some guys who where assessed after us but unemployed.
Archer did you try QR?
Archer did you try QR?
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Hopes fadding...
This letter I received today is a bad.
I assume I am one of the "oldest" ones in the pool but I am flying a Boeing "classic" at the moment, so I guess all 73NG, 744 75/6 will probably offer a better sim deal to the company. Theyre prolly not offering such a good CCQ for rated Airbus drivers, even so make an easiest pick for a company short of pilots and sim slots at same time.
No other choice than wait end of September. If there's no mail then, i'm out coz won't be given course before February...
Already said no to QR when EK gave me the "pass" ...
I assume I am one of the "oldest" ones in the pool but I am flying a Boeing "classic" at the moment, so I guess all 73NG, 744 75/6 will probably offer a better sim deal to the company. Theyre prolly not offering such a good CCQ for rated Airbus drivers, even so make an easiest pick for a company short of pilots and sim slots at same time.
No other choice than wait end of September. If there's no mail then, i'm out coz won't be given course before February...
Already said no to QR when EK gave me the "pass" ...
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It is not gold everything that shines.
Dear colleagues,
Sad to see people waiting and waiting, but....I think you donīt miss anything special, believe me.
If unemployed, thatīs another serious bussiness.
Sad to see people waiting and waiting, but....I think you donīt miss anything special, believe me.
If unemployed, thatīs another serious bussiness.
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Yes I did, but they're in the same situation, lot of F/O in the pool and no calls for new interviews. QR is not an option now.
I'm having an assessment in Istanbul for THY soon, that will be the best option right now.
Never expected that when talking about EK, the deal was to pass the assessment and surprisingly that was "easy". What came after was a big surprise!
Colleague of mine in the same situation contacted the woman sending the email this morning and her advise was something like get a f... contract otherwise you'll be too long non current and that plays against you. So, advise for the people in the same situation as I am, get a job or EK doors will be closed next January.
Yes I did, but they're in the same situation, lot of F/O in the pool and no calls for new interviews. QR is not an option now.
I'm having an assessment in Istanbul for THY soon, that will be the best option right now.
Never expected that when talking about EK, the deal was to pass the assessment and surprisingly that was "easy". What came after was a big surprise!
Colleague of mine in the same situation contacted the woman sending the email this morning and her advise was something like get a f... contract otherwise you'll be too long non current and that plays against you. So, advise for the people in the same situation as I am, get a job or EK doors will be closed next January.
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Guys, EK still has so many B777s and A380s to come in the near future and despite the fact it will be retiring some 330s/340s, we'll still need loads and loads of pilots, and as has been said before things can change overnight here. I know this wait is frustrating but for you guys that have passed the selection it's just a matter of time.
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Murrenfan,
You are right in saying that with the planes on orders, EK will be needing pilots for the foreseeable future.
The problem we in the pool are facing is that we can only be in there for 12 months and we have just been told that the next available date might be in January. Considering that some of us have been in the pool since February, it does not leave much margin...
It could just be a simple case of bad luck/timing for those interviewed in Feb/march and April 2012
Let's wait and see...
You are right in saying that with the planes on orders, EK will be needing pilots for the foreseeable future.
The problem we in the pool are facing is that we can only be in there for 12 months and we have just been told that the next available date might be in January. Considering that some of us have been in the pool since February, it does not leave much margin...
It could just be a simple case of bad luck/timing for those interviewed in Feb/march and April 2012
Let's wait and see...
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EK Hold Pool (FO's)
New planes deliveries play no roll right now here as the email is clear, no more airbus courses and boeing only in January. They obviously know how many airplanes will come in Oct/Nov/Dec but decided that with the actual number of F/O is enough to cover these positions.
The courses before the end of the year are just full and the chances to get in 0. The only change possible is that BOEING inadvertently delivers 4 more 777 in November
by the face and that won't happen man!
This last email was probably the 1st one to give us real and accurate information and sadly it is not beautiful at all.
What they told me: You're not flying since Feb 2012. If you're called in September to join in January it will be almost a year grounded so... better have a summer job flying a bit or forget about us. Something like "get a contract job". These guys seems to have no f.. idea about how aviation market is right now.
The courses before the end of the year are just full and the chances to get in 0. The only change possible is that BOEING inadvertently delivers 4 more 777 in November
by the face and that won't happen man! This last email was probably the 1st one to give us real and accurate information and sadly it is not beautiful at all.
What they told me: You're not flying since Feb 2012. If you're called in September to join in January it will be almost a year grounded so... better have a summer job flying a bit or forget about us. Something like "get a contract job". These guys seems to have no f.. idea about how aviation market is right now.
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Funny how EK and QR spend $billions on shiney new airplanes and yet they employ the worst and most disorganised HR departments they can buy. How about they focus on improved and more consistent communication - even an automated email update... Not impressive! 
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Totally dissapoiting..
Well not much to say.. Its totally dissapointing and unexpected from ek. But dont panic..theres still plenty of time and new planes are being delivered.. So dont worry you will see they will contact us in the near future..
In my case Im flying boeing ng and I attended the selection process the beginning of april.
Cheers,
In my case Im flying boeing ng and I attended the selection process the beginning of april.
Cheers,
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Passing a selection isn't, sadly, an offer of employment. I know it too well; 18 months of B.A pool swiming didn't prevent me from getting a please F. off e-mail from the obnoxious, self calling world's favourite airline 
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Good luck to all swimmers.....
.Good luck to all swimmers.....