What is the point ? Oh yes , the small matter of nearly 50k UK , per month that is , a big welcome speech to the crew , the usual ' I want to meet you every month and talk ' then the khanzu brigade gag him , remind him of his bank balance , and back to normal .God , I wish I had the bull to get one of the top jobs in Omanair , made for life . Sadly , most of the expat managers were useless before they got the nod with Omanair , Peter Hill was not , but he still took the shilling and shut his mouth . Some things will never change . Pensions are everything .
As ussually sh.........te we heard it before every new CEO join the company, first thing he says in three years will make profit, and then what happens? James Hogan did in GF, Peter hill did In Wy when he joined, same way of sweet talk and then what? Jump ship live happilly there after The next one is no different the same Sh........te different day, One has to understand the interest of the comes first, even if the company run to the ground . The only guy can keep secret is a foreigner and his boss . 24 hrls out the country and live happilly their after. Oman air will never expand, so many cr........ks who knows nothing about running an airline and these are the decision maker, bleeds the company to the max. Maximum they will have 35 to 40 aircraft by 2019 and this will be mix of four to five types of aircraft and the company will not make any profit till a radical changes , fire everyone and start from scratch . I dont see the profit in Oman Air at all, read the profit and lost from 2008 till now Its all LOST, Prediction for the next five years you can guess yourself. its all red Its bad and going to worse. The rest is all yours
Isn't it beyond the bounds of this site to start naming (with real names) folks that may or may not be taking up an appointment? It's just wrong, if you want to do it then why not post on here with your own real name and current appointment so people can take a shot or two at you also. The amount of bitching and moaning from pilots on here can be shocking at times.
If the people you moan about are such wasters who could not run a company if they tried, then why not get off your fat asses and apply for the jobs yourselves. Realtime personal feedback on a public forum (used anonymously by the contributors), on people who have done nothing to ask for it other than apply for a job is school-groundish behaviour at best and personally destructive for the individual concerned at worst. How about getting some use in on that delete function wapses?
ENFP -still trying to work out your motives for saying the above . Meanwhile I put it to you that when us pilots are recruited by said airline , we are tested and trained , and expected to perform safely and diligently , which I am proud to say I did when employed . Is it too much for us to ask that the same professional diligence be expected from our ' leaders ' , who get paid 10 times as much as we were , I kid you not , appear to have qualifications to manage an airline , which us mere drivers do not pretend to have , and not feel let down ? I do not cal this moaning . It is pointless asking us to apply for the jobs . The managers cannot apply for our jobs - they are not qualified . Simples.
My motives are simple, I do not believe it is correct to discuss the real names of individuals on this site, particularly when nobody has actually received an appointment yet and importantly when the posters choose to hide under anonymity, it is plain wrong. If people want to discuss others in their airline using real names then it should either be done on a private airline forum or you should use your own real name when posting. Aviation is a small world and some people for their own reasons have very biased sometimes hateful opinions of others, which generally are unfounded. Spreading such rumours can be extremely damaging to the person being victimised under their real name. At the end of the day, sh*t sticks, so if you want to spread the sh*t then at least have the balls to use your own name. That's all I am saying.
As to your other points, if you are not qualified to do the Management jobs, then don't moan about them. I doubt a Pilot would take kindly to a a mechanic or member of administration voicing their opinions that they believe the Pilots to be unprofessional. At the end of the day it is down to using the real names I guess, that is the bit I find wrong. Also remember that our perceptions of what is required from Management (or any job other than our own) may differ greatly from what is actually demanded of them by the board, and truth be known if most of us on here were in receipt of 50K sterling a month and a pension that promised to take care of you and your family for life then most of us would wind our necks in when the board told us to do so.
I guess I just agree with dac787, tired of hearing it all. If you believe Management are unsafe then shop them, but then again we wind our necks in just like they do, so that we can keep our jobs.
If the people you moan about are such wasters who could not run a company if they tried, then why not get off your fat asses and apply for the jobs yourselves.
Well said, ENFP, even though you're going to get flamed for it. I'm equally sick of hearing the same ludicrous drum-beat about pilots being able to do no wrong, while "managers" and "bean counters" (what a disrespectful term) are considered some sort of sub-species unworthy of earning a crust. Plenty of pilots out there who are as crp at their job as some of the suits, yet think they're God's gift to aviation. And you don't even have to look as far as the Mid East to find them.
ENFP and JAZZ, And you don't even have to look as far as the Mid East to find them. This shows your true colours about your knowledge of the company, the company loosing millions per day and you two deffending away from the truth. my advise to you two is think before you verbal dhierrea. kota enjoy the dawa dawa,we still donking around .
Real problem, throughout the Mid East, probably, is that whoever moves into the post will find out very quickly that insufficient room will be given to manouvre. The frustrations for a new CEO who cannot impliment much needed change will be seen by one roll over after another.
I agree with ENFP, no need to name names, very unprofessional and very unnecessary. By dropping names into any rumour, however unsubstantiated as this is, serious denigrates the individual and seriously jeopardises their current position.
I would strongly recommend removal of any names WAPSES
There is no rule that I am aware of about not posting names.
This is a "rumour" network. I have posted some rumours.
Well apart from it being both common courtesy and decency, I suggest you and those that agree with you are very careful. The law is explicitly clear that if you post something that defames an individual on a forum, rumour or not then litigation is likely to come down on you very hard indeed. The first thing the named persons lawyer will do is write to internet brands demanding the real names, IP addresses and any other stored information on the members who have participated in remarks of a slanderous or defamatory nature. Internet Brands will hand over that information in a heart beat otherwise they become complicit also. Normally within 4-8 working days from that point on your full name, postal address and employer is known to the subject and his/her legal team. In all the cases so far the fines have been severe. So with that fair warning, continue and enjoy your rumours and muck speading