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Old 17th Jan 2012, 02:50
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Taras B is right and he points undeniable facts.

If fatcadet had bothered to check PPRuNe threads since 2006 he could see for himself that the AAG/Clark Aviation saga began long before he registered as a member of this forum.
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Old 17th Jan 2012, 05:17
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Fatcadet being a supporter of Alpha can answer why Alpha made cadets sign the contract which was given to them four month into their training but the date mentioned was the date they joined. Two cadets were underage ( less than 18 years) Alpha and their management know the thuth. Truth will prevail one day.
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Old 17th Jan 2012, 11:34
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Fatcadet I disagree that Taras B should be banned from posting. You and other supporters of Alpha are scared to face the truth which he puts down in his posts. I think you have an axe to grind. Alpha has been singled out because there are a lot of wrong things happening out there. Cadets are made to sign a contract four months into their training when they have no choice. Then they mention the date of joining which is clearly not the case. Cadets saw the contract for the first time four month into their training. Is that fair? Taras B do continue with your posts
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Old 20th Jan 2012, 06:57
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Where do cadets get kicked out?

Hey Taras B, if Alpha is taking in more cadets than Air Arabia can handle, then where are the Cadets being retrenched from the course? And what excuse does Alpha give the students for not taking them all the way through?

If it’s not only the bad students that get kicked out, I am presuming that at some point, the Management will have a chat to the student and tell them they are not good enough? So where does this happen? in the Ground School, Core Flying, MCC, or Intermediate and Advanced training?

From what I hear though, the Intermediate and Advanced training is done by Air Arabia? Or does Alpha still handle this aspect?
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Old 20th Jan 2012, 10:27
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Alpha does not care about the retrenched cadets. No refund is made because of the contract signed four months into the training. You could be in the middle of your ground school or middlle of your core flying. A cadets friend was not allowed to resit his exams in ground school other friend was removed after 35 hours of flying time though he had payed Dh 150,000 for 80 h0urs of core flying. No refund is made. Doors of Alpha are closed for them and the money gone. It happens at all stages. I am only MCC stage and our batch of 9 has been reduced to 6.
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Old 20th Jan 2012, 20:59
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Sorry guys, I can't reply to all of you at once, I need quiet a time, I'll find the time for that...line training needs a lots of preparation & sleep

Keep on posting good or bad, more news to come from my side just don't take it personal...as it seems to be

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Old 21st Jan 2012, 03:34
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If you are going to share your successes, by all means do, we are interested to know your progress. But to those cadets who have not shared your advantages and good luck, I ask you to please show a little respect.

TB its not about good luck or praying or advantages... ITS ALL ABOUT HARD WORK AND STUDYING AND READING UP ON A/C SYSTEMS AND ASKING QUESTIONS TO YOUR INSTRUCTOR nothing can stop you then from becoming a very successful pilot..
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Old 21st Jan 2012, 14:24
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Left Wing if Alpha is confident about being honest and upright then why do they have to make cadets sign contracts four months into their training? Why is the entrance exam made so easy that a primary school child can get through ? Why do they not want to refund part of the payment for the unused flying hours of my cadet friend who payed Dh 150,000 for 80 hours of core flying but was sent home after 35 hours? Did not Aipha save on gas, plane, instruction time etc but they pocketed rest of the money. Malirm remember I am still there and know exactly what is happening out there. In fact I hold you responsible for my plight because I trusted your updates. My request be honest.
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Old 23rd Jan 2012, 13:32
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Yet another cadet removed from Alpha in Australia in the core flying stage while Alpha pockets the money.
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Old 23rd Jan 2012, 20:15
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http://www.gcaa.gov.ae/en/ePublication/admin/iradmin/Lists/Incidents%20Investigation%20Reports/Attachments/22/2011-Preliminary%20Report%20Cessna%20172S%20-%20A6-MPL%20-%20Report%2013%202011.pdf

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Old 24th Jan 2012, 02:53
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Beside all the above mentioned reasons I would like to add Alpha made underage cadets - less then 18 years to sign the contract which is against the Uae law.
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Old 24th Jan 2012, 03:01
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By the way Alpha at Sharjah was shut down by GCAA for two months in Nov and Dec 2010.
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Old 24th Jan 2012, 03:13
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Great Stuff Taras B

I really Appreciate it (Really)

The problem is that, you are mixing stuff now, COMPASS (in a way or another) is a certified selection tool (AAA has their asses covered legally), if AAA (Sharjah) was that bankrupt, why didn't the GCAA close AAA (big Question)?

When comparing, Please get the TOTAL NUMBER of students & the TOTAL NUMBER of people screwing it up...the Majority screw it up in ground school & by LAW (GCAA), if you fail 4 times in ATPL exams...you're OUT...is it AAA's fault now, I can tell you that we have a bunch of EXPERIENCED & skilled ground instructors, who I respect & wish the best for, they made ground school fun, but there are some cadets who just DON'T CARE...

& AAKhan, why was that ?

TARAS B, I'm not going against you, but putting the blame TOTALLY on one side is not right, it is a COMBINATION. Please check the problems with the other flight schools in the Region, I guess MPL training is becoming a Headache for FTOs

I don't know whether it was AAG's, ICAO's, GCAA's or MPL's fault, but I can assure you, they are all awake now including other concerned parties...lets hope for the best, I just want all the MPLers to live happily ever after, My colleagues & I are trying to establish a Good Benchmark for the others to improve on...again I say blaming Alpha alone for the training delays & dropouts is unfair...hope I find more time next month to catch up with you guys
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Old 24th Jan 2012, 04:04
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Two experienced and skilled ground instructors left Alpha and joined Horizon at Al Alin because they got disgusted with Alpha. Some cadets are not allowed to sit for their third attempt well my friend was not allowed. Malirm get your facts right. I hold you responsible for my plight because I got influenced by your updates. I Know you have your own axe to grind but dont pass wrong information and dont play with dreams and money of future cadets
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Old 24th Jan 2012, 23:23
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@ AAKhan, you are completely wrong with the instructors' reasons, they got a better pay, thus they decided to leave, which is a Normal thing BTW, do you want their phone numbers to ask them by yourself ?

AAKhan, I don't think that I have influenced you that much since Nov 2011, that was the time you joined us in PPRUNE go find another person to blame...I was sharing MY experience & what I know about MPL & what I heard from here & there...its PPRuNe. AAKhan...GROW UP

@ Taras B

Failing cadets in core flying will KILL the company, plus, AAG (Sharjah) has no influence on the Australian flight school to fail or pass cadets...the same way you discussed the crashes, please discuss the cases where people failed in core flying...WHY?

Talking about the extra sorties that I & my classmates enjoyed in the core flying...I can Guarantee you, we didn't have ANY extra sorties, while others in the other batches (including those who crashed) have enjoyed extra sorties...I guess including Mr AAKhan

Talking about delays in core flying for us & other batches (being us the most affected), the delays were mainly from the GCAA & AAA's Management in Sharjah at that time...why don't you talk about now...it's 2 months without delays

As for your last sentence in your post, I need to add something, I say "we will exceed Air Arabia's MPL cadet benchmark" it seems that you have problems with Air Arabia too !

To sum up, guys, AAG/AAA...etc. has the wheel running now, I wish all the best for the guys who want to get their money/training back, good news to come inshallah.

P.S. Just don't keep posting the same thing again & again...because I have to post here the same thing again & again ...AAKhan & Taras B, as days pass, it becomes clearer & clearer that you guys have had a bad experience from AAG as well, I wish you all the best...keep on posting, but please, in reason

See you when I see you guys, roster Changes can't help sometimes
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Old 25th Jan 2012, 03:14
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Well two out of three instructors leave for Horizon at the same time that does reflect poorly on Alpha? Third is the head so he is not going to leave. You did infuence my joining Alpha only to regret later. Malirm we know you want to secure your employment with Air Arabia but I suggest your show some respect for other cadets who have lost so much of their money and time in Alpha
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Old 25th Jan 2012, 15:01
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Securing a job was done already...you just mentioned it...time & money is AAG's problem & problems will be solved as you see guys...couple of days/weeks...inshallah

No doubt, I respect you all & will respect you more if you respect me back...I was one of you & I am still, I fully understand our situation here, but I say, it's not only AAG to blame.

I'm sad that my sweet RP-C 3544 crashed please send my regards to the dispatcher & ask him to double check for the sortie thingy, as I am sure it's about a DPCO, I respect that guy btw

Off to my flight hope we enjoy the good news soon
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Old 25th Jan 2012, 16:25
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Which good news?

@aakhan and Taras B: just stop with bashing this thread. As what malirm says, there are en were problems, but they are going to be solved in very short time if we believe malirm. I think that only aakhan can confirm this?

But malirm, which good news? Have a nice flight btw..
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Old 25th Jan 2012, 19:49
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Forget about enjoying extra sorties the cadets who have been entrenched (which makes 2 out of 15) in Australia have had just 35 hours instead of 80 hours. They payed Alpha Dh150,00 for just 35 hours. Malirm think what they must be going through.
SKY81- Good you did not join Alpha after reading positive comments posted by Malirm well that is his part time job. My advice do not leave your current job to join Alpha you will regret it just as I do. You have been
told by the Alpha authorities that the washed out cadets were not up to the standards well the ratio does not project a good picture of Alpha. Join only if they assure you of your success.
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Old 26th Jan 2012, 10:32
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Captain Weird then you accept problems in Alpha after they are pointed out and after Alpha is pushed to the wall. Trademark of Alpha keep solving problems.
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