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Old 8th Oct 2016, 15:55
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Originally Posted by KarloTodorov
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has anybody attended the psychometric tests in E.D.M.A. and what is it like?
bump.. would be good to know.
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Originally Posted by KarloTodorov
Hello guys,

has anybody attended the psychometric tests in E.D.M.A. and what is it like?
Has anyone been here yet?
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From what I've heard from numerous sources, this programme is to be avoided completely.
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Originally Posted by momo95
From what I've heard from numerous sources, this programme is to be avoided completely.
What do you mean by avoided?
May I know why?
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Old 27th Oct 2016, 08:08
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yes why?

does anyone have any real info on what the delays are? for core flying? base training? and line training?

Who has failed the training? will they be refunded anything?

What the quality of training is like? Some say instructors are just CPL holders no jet time
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What do you mean by avoided?
May I know why?
Have you read the financial details of this course?

It is madness. Costing well in excess of £140,000 they make CTC look cheap and that is really saying something. It is ridiculous.

As well as that, the salary is 5,500 AED for your first 100 sectors too (unknown length of time due to varied scheduling but at least 4/5 months). Try living in Dubai on that. It seriously is not possible without taking out further loans.

Best avoided as I said. Now I have nothing against these people I just really think it isn't good. For what they are giving, it is crazily priced.

To give you some perspective. The CTC Qatar MPL costs £109,000. Your starting salary is in excess of £70,000 upon flying the line. Alpha just have taken it to a whole new level.

Before even getting to training, £700 for the assessment really should send alarm bells ringing
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Originally Posted by pfvspnf
yes why?

does anyone have any real info on what the delays are? for core flying? base training? and line training?

Who has failed the training? will they be refunded anything?

What the quality of training is like? Some say instructors are just CPL holders no jet time
I am not sure what to make of speculation. Officer Kite and others make valid points, but as to the delays these have been cleared up. Officer Kite you are right, as far as real money goes this is expensive even for the initial assessments themselves. But tell me which course (pay to fly or not) gives you 1500H on type. This is pretty much the minimum to shift over to EY EK et al.

Has anyone been through the psychometric stage at EDMA yet?
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But tell me which course (pay to fly or not) gives you 1500H on type. This is pretty much the minimum to shift over to EY EK et al.
Don't fall for marketing. EVERY airline scheme out there has one aim, that is to hire future captains. This automatically means more than 1500 hrs on type.

You may say you are not guaranteed it with other airlines. Well you aren't guaranteed 1500 hrs with Alpha. If you fail your exams or don't meet the Air Arabia standard, you will not be getting 1500 hours on type. This is absolutely no different to any other programme, but Alpha are trying to make it sound special with how they are marketing it.

There is a reason after having spent crazy amounts of cash on the training, that they actually want to get a 110,000 AED deposit off you ... this is in case you do not meet their standard and have to leave.

Now think about that, you have paid £140,000 on your training, and then when you get to line training, you have to pay an extra AED 110,000 deposit in case you fail the final part, Air Arabia call this their "security bond", but security against what ? you have paid for all of the training yourself, they have spent nothing on your training, but they want you to give them 110,000 AED in case you fail the final part. On what planet does this make sense ?

I think I sound angry haha, I'm really not, just trying to warn my fellow wannabe pilots about this scheme, there are far far better alternatives !!

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Officer Kite - well said. At least with CTC you get a GUARANTEED position on the RHS obviously bearing in mind that you pass every stage, including the stable approach and landings on your Line training ....the starting salary is also very good and you start on a career airline... This Air Arabia MPL is a joke, sure lets say you pass, but where in god's name do you balance out your investment? The housing is poor, the salary is poor for a while and the risk is just too great. Even if you get the inital money, no bank is gonna offer you MORE for this security bond/living expenses.

Also remember, an MPL allows you to fly on a specific type, for ONE (1) airline. For those thinking of going to Air Arabia and then simply changing airlines, until you an an ATPL forget about it. So at any point if Air Arabia leaves you hanging, good luck trying to get an airline to hire you.

There are far better options!
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Indeed striker.

I actually thought I was seeing things when I first read the financial details. Living in Dubai on £1,300 a month? After having taken out a loan of £140,000 already? The laborers have a better deal (and the sad part about that statement is that it is true!).

And in the very small dealings I have had with the school, I found them unhelpful and somewhat unfriendly and definitely greedy, I got the sense it was just about my pockets, of course all schools want the cash, but I've yet to meet other schools who make it so rudely obvious. This is not biased, but any remote thoughts I may have had of doing this course were quickly extinguished in two goes.

First go - reading the costs and subsequent salary.

Second go - The displeasure of dealing with the school. Ignoring emails etc.

Go for it by all means but beware you are committing financial suicide with huge risks associated.
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No ways

Alpha is a NO GO . MPL is another P2F. Lot of money, poor salary, you can't upgrade.

Moreover no options for you with MPL in market if you get sacked anyday.
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I have not seen CTC gurantee training upon successful completion. It merely states 98% success rate on the White Tail scheme which includes line flying or a place on a flexi crew kinda scheme, which is far from the security of a real job..
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The delays have not been cleared up! How long does it take to wait for core flying and base training ?
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Originally Posted by k.swiss
I have not seen CTC gurantee training upon successful completion. It merely states 98% success rate on the White Tail scheme which includes line flying or a place on a flexi crew kinda scheme, which is far from the security of a real job..
No scheme on the planet guarantees you a job.

But Alpha make it sound like they do, when they don't.

Look man, if you wanna pay £140,000 for training then earn £1,300 a month, be my guest. I'm just warning those who aren't aware of the reality of this scheme.
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Originally Posted by Officer Kite
No scheme on the planet guarantees you a job.

But Alpha make it sound like they do, when they don't.

Look man, if you wanna pay £140,000 for training then earn £1,300 a month, be my guest. I'm just warning those who aren't aware of the reality of this scheme.
1300pounds per month is only for frist few months isn't it?
I heard the salery goes up to 5000pounds per month after that while flying for 1500hours.
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Originally Posted by Dogkim
1300pounds per month is only for frist few months isn't it?
I heard the salery goes up to 5000pounds per month after that while flying for 1500hours.
Correct - plus can this stuff not be confirmed during a site visit? And in comparison that's a pretty decent amount.
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Old 30th Oct 2016, 17:31
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Try to survive with 1300 Pounds in DXB. Good luck...
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Originally Posted by ExDubai
Try to survive with 1300 Pounds in DXB. Good luck...
I know that is totally impossible. But there aren't much choices for people from poor aviation industry countries.
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The 110,000 for line training ? Does Aby return that to you or keep it for themselves ? It's ridiculous how low the salary is after all that and you are still bonded .
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Originally Posted by KarloTodorov
Hello guys,

has anybody attended the psychometric tests in E.D.M.A. and what is it like?
Anyone been here yet? Arriving in two weeks, have just booked a hotel near by.
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