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Old 17th Oct 2010, 11:33   #41 (permalink)
 
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@ Yannisfr

Most of the first batch are done with core flying finally (I'm one of them )...after 17 weeks in the Philippines, Now...we will be heading back to Sharjah to start the MCC Sim sometime around the end of the month...any news from your side ...
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Old 19th Oct 2010, 05:56   #42 (permalink)


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Hello Malirm,

My nameís Hassan, I read all your comments in PPRuNe and really itís very useful, I intend to join AAA but still to this moment Iím hesitant regarding the appointment after complete the course, so if you have any update please inform me, I wish to you a best luck .
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Old 26th Nov 2010, 13:16   #43 (permalink)
 
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@Malirm

From my side, i have gone through FTE Jerez tests and i got them, so i will start soon in Spain the classic integrated CPL programme. I did not felt really confident with AAA, so i decided to go for a renown FTO.

Did you came back from Philippines? Sim? What new about your school and Air Arabia?

When are you expecting completing the programme?

Good luck my friend!
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Old 21st Jan 2011, 17:23   #44 (permalink)
 
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any update

Hi all

I'm new here .. but found this very useful .. i'm also thinking of joining AAA and waiting for Malirm's update .. desperately!!!

Good Luck!!
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Old 30th Jan 2011, 10:12   #45 (permalink)


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Hi, everybody. I'm new here. Could anybody tell me if he get job with Air Arabia or any other company after the AAA course finish. It could be usefull because it in my my to join then. Anybody can help me ?
Thank you
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Old 31st Jan 2011, 17:43   #46 (permalink)
 
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hi Guys, Updates

Just got out from a meeting in Alpha Aviation Academy, it included the GM, HOT & Air Arabia's Training Manager...and other AAA staff.

As for the time being, The 3 CA MPL cadets were released from line training & are now Full FOs of Air Arabia, while the other 4 are still under the SO position (for the Line Training). ANY MPL cadet must do (initially) 80 sectors or 500 hours with Air Arabia before they get released to FO position (depending on Availability of Slots AND performance)...might be reduced (from 80 sectors) as soon as MPL becomes more popular & Air Arabia becomes 100% confident of the "product".

Also heard "Air Arabia & Alpha Aviation Academy are fully committed to MPL & to providing the training for MPL" + Alots of topics were covered on the A320 Sim training, TOs & Landings...etc. I can't really give out the info on that stuff until it is Finalised between AA & AAG...since the new GM has joined Alpha, I can say, alots of positive news are coming out & will be coming out...until this moment, I can say Air Arabia is considering MPL seriously & is putting plans for it, as usual...no promises of a Permanent contract, but at least news about Temporary contracts are now confirmed to be real...so, nothing to worry about...if you don't get absorbed into AA, you can go to other airlines...but don't think that AA would make you leave, they need pilots in the coming days
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Old 18th Mar 2011, 12:11   #47 (permalink)
 
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Arabian Aerospace - Air Arabia signs MPL training contract with JATS
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Old 21st Mar 2011, 06:03   #48 (permalink)
 
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AAA contracts with JATS

Hi Malirm, thanks for the update .. btw does that mean that AAA students will undergo their simulator training in Jordan?? for how long? -it will be more cash to spend then .. Last time i talked to the AAA staff, they said they are at the moment in a phase of building their own simulator for their student near the airport??!?! which should be done by the end of this year
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Old 21st Mar 2011, 21:37   #49 (permalink)
 
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@ Sky81

It won't cost us any extra, we are paying the normal installments...its up to the Academy to make the Profit or not. Basically at the A320 phase, its up to the Partner Airline (in this case Air Arabia) to make profit or not

We are expected to complete the A320 Phase in 7 weeks, 2 weeks of A320 ground school/MFD stuff, then A320 Sim for 5 weeks...

As I pass by it every time I go to the Academy, The A320 Sim Building will be ready in a month or so & the Sim will be placed in it by Mid May...then GCAA will make an Audit & would have to Certify the Sim...etc. so July sounds like the Month of judgement ! As far as I got to know, the first few batches will do their A320 Phase in Jordan, including Air Arabia Crew...more updates to come soon
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Old 13th May 2011, 09:48   #50 (permalink)
 
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Updates

Updates are coming soon by end of Next week

until that time, bang me with questions
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Old 14th May 2011, 10:14   #51 (permalink)
 
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Hiiiii

Training seems taking more than 2 years right?
How many cadets are involved in the programme actually?
I heard that core flying will not be done in SHJ?
Once you will be finishing all the training, how car the sponsor airline integrate the cadets? They will not be able to take more than 10 per year, so it will take more than 5 years to integrate everybody.....
How many finally will get jobs with the airline?
Enough questions mate......
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Old 17th May 2011, 12:38   #52 (permalink)
 
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@ Yannisfr

Hi, here is a PART of the update

I think it seems that the 18 month programme turned to be a 26 month Program...no doubt, as MPL still has challenges on how to IMPLEMENT the written stuff & make them happen in reality satisfying the Airline & the Civil Aviation Authority as well...the delays apply to Batch 1 & 2, but don't think batch 3, 4, 5 & 6 so far.

There are 9 cadets in the First Batch, 14 in the Second (Core Flying now) & another 30 to 35 cadets in Ground school, some of them are graduating soon.

In order to put an end to the Core Flying Bottle Neck, the academy is doing the flying in Sharjah (with 2 C172s) & in Clark Aviation, Philippines (with 3 C172s), hopefully by Mid-Jun, 6 cadets will be ready for MCC, while the other 8 will finish before the end of June their core flying, thus opening the way for the another 16 or so cadets for core flying. There is some news that a Third Core Flying training location will be provided, but with Pipers (glass cockpit ones).

The Sponsor airline (Air Arabia), is ready to receive us at anytime, they've prepared TREs & TRIs & Line training Captains, we'll need approx. 4 months to finish the line training & become fully released FOs & as you know, Arabia is receiving 2 planes this year & they are already loosing pilots for Etihad & Emirates + other Big Airlines.

I belief that it can take up to a Year to absorb all 50 + cadets, don't forget, there are 40 A320s to be delivered by 2013 (2.5 more years !) I also belief that the current amount of cadets are not enough !

The 7 cadets from Clark Aviation got released to line as (FOs) beginning of this week...(that's 7 slots for us )

As for the first Batch, we are now ready for the A320 Training, expecting to leave for Jordan next week & come back for 12 TOs & LNDGs by end of Jul, you will be updated more in the coming few days...I will find the time
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Old 20th May 2011, 10:57   #53 (permalink)
 
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Malirmmmmm

Thanks for the update, i hope you will be finishing your training before 2013... The A320 are to be received before end of 2016, and a part of them will be replacing the ones in leasing.

Realistically, AA will not be able in one year all the cadets, and i think that they will only take Max half of all the ones actually in training (7 batches). Am i right or wrong????
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Old 20th May 2011, 12:02   #54 (permalink)
 
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@ Yannisfr

I still have the Updates, but will need to Confirm them before I go to you guys...anyways, since its PPRuNe, I'll give you an outline I was hoping to Confirm it yesterday...

Batch 1 will start the A320 Ground School + Exam next week, then SEP/Dangerous Goods...etc. courses will be provided, then, by end of Next week, we'll be off to Jordan for the ICAO English Proficiency Test, then the A320 Intermediate & Advanced Phase, with a total of 27 A320 FFS sessions which is going to end in less than 7 weeks (5 working days), i.e. 4 hour Session everyday

Hopefully by July 21st we'll go directly from Jordan to a Country (Confidential), for the 12 TAGs, then back to UAE to issue the Licenses, as you know, as it is New to Alpha, Air Arabia & the GCAA, everything is being monitored & supervised bit by bit...thats why we got the delays, everything must be upto the standards (if not more) I hope that the GCAA, Air Arabia & Alpha have settled it finally, as from what I hear & get to know, the MPL training standards here in the UAE, is a competent to the UK-JAR standards. This makes me proud

As for the A320s & Job Placements...etc. don't forget that neighboring airlines are growing really fast, Lots & lots of pilots (specially the Type Rated) are being SUCKED into the Big airlines because of their fast growth (although they have their own Cadet Pilot Program !) we all still have a great chance into Air Arabia...lots of FOs are becoming Captain also, while other Captains are becoming involved with the TRI/TRE positions...I guess we will have some space

More to Come once confirmed
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Old 28th May 2011, 12:31   #55 (permalink)
 
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Thanks man, sounds good for you! I think you re in Jordan actually.
If batch 2 is in core flying, that means that all the other batches will come to core flying in the next months, and the other location with pipers sounds to be ideal to get in all the guys, otherwise you will struggle with your 2 cessnas in Sharjah and 3 in Philippines. But at least the last batches should experience delays with the core flying phase and the mcc one as well, as they will approximatively all finish the core at the same time, end of 2011, or Q1 2012, and FNPT2 will be overloaded. Then, i can't see how Air Arabia can enroll all the 35 or more cadets in line training at the same time. It is not realistic. The last batch will complete his training at Air Arabia best case end of 2013, but realistically 2014....or 2015

I agree, Emirates, Etihad, Flydubai will recruit in mass in the nearest future, but as your school continues to integrate cadets, there will be a breaking point where cadets will be left on the roadside, you have to be realistic, and Air Arabia planes are to be delivered from now till end of 2016
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Old 9th Jun 2011, 06:46   #56 (permalink)
 
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Yannisfr, I am currently a student in AAA and about to finish my ground school.
As you mentioned before, several students will be completing ground school and will thus require extra planes to complete our core flying stage. Well, AAA has already dealt with the problem. They have plans to send us to Australia for flying. Our flights, accommodation and food will be paid by Alpha. The contract between Alpha and the Australian flying school has been signed. All that is required now is the approval from the GCAA! If all goes well, which it should, I will be in Australia in the next 2 months! We all still need to complete our ground school and then pass our air law test!
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Old 15th Jun 2011, 15:31   #57 (permalink)
 
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Nice to hear the good news gals! I am very enthousiastic about this programme. How did you guys handle with this all? I can't find any selection process stages at the site of AAA.

Will the MPL graduating pilots get a job at Air Arabia or is it still not guaranteed? Any info on that? In these times the money isn't really a big issue, the most of the banks will give a loan.

And the course costs, 440,000AED, is this including food, accomodation and things like that or not?

Thanks anyways!!
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Old 16th Jun 2011, 18:01   #58 (permalink)
 
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Do not worry about the selection process. It is not difficult at all. You will have a basic Maths and English test. There is no need to revise for it. After that you will have some compute based exams. Once again no need to practise for it as you will be guided before you do the exam for real. Not difficult. After that you will have an interview and you will be told the next day if u are successful or not.

The cost of 440k dhs does not include any food, housing or transport. AAA provides some housing some 1 min drive away but it costs about 1900 dhs per month. Not lived there but i have seen the flats and tbh it is good value for money.
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Old 16th Jun 2011, 20:11   #59 (permalink)
 
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Thank you very much newcadet to answer my questions! But what is now the average length of the training? I've read 20+ months and things like that. At the site I read (a minimum of 19 months).

The course place is Sharjah. Will the cadets fly the single engine aircrafts at Sharjah Airport (Base of Air Arabia)?

And does the MPL programme of AAA really don't include any real multi engine aircraft?
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Old 17th Jun 2011, 04:34   #60 (permalink)
 
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Yeah, I do not think it will take more than 20 months to finish the course.
Atm AAA is planning on shifting the single engine training to Australia. If this happens to you AAA will pay for everything apart from your own entertainment there.
They will pay for your flights, food and housing for the 10 weeks that you will be there for.
The course at AAA does include flying in a real A320. You will get to do 12 Take off and Landings. After that you will get to fly a few sectors (not sure of the number) with Air Arabia as a second officer. You will basically fly from say Sharjah to Delhi and then fly back with 2 other pilots guiding you.

If you perform well then you will be offered a contract as a first officer when they have a slot open. Atm Air Arabia is hiring throughout the year so we all should get a job considering we do well in the line training.
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