Turkish Airlines - THY Recruitment (Merged)
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not long in the industry to become a Captain compared with other airlines circa 10/12 years.
Longest ive been an FO was 14 months..so yes 6.5 is a damn long time...to wait 12-14 years you better be having a home based job in a financially strong airline...
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From what I hear SXS do actually upgrade foreigner FOs, many Dutch guys in process with minimum 4 years experience so if you look at the THY "group" and exclude THY/LTH but include SXS,SXD the system does provide for " early upgrade" of course, to enter THY mainline as a DEC from the other " group" companies you would need to meet the requirement of THY mainline, probably means flying as a Captain in SXS for 4 more years or so. As I said, don't worry about upgrade as a foreigner FO in THY mainline because it will never happen while the sun shines;
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Guys, the first yabanci fo's are currently doing their upgrade in THY.
As far as I know these are non university degree guys, others have been asked to submit all documents etc again to see if they are elligble for the upgrade.
With regards to the 777 upgrade, i have no clue what's going on.
As far as I know these are non university degree guys, others have been asked to submit all documents etc again to see if they are elligble for the upgrade.
With regards to the 777 upgrade, i have no clue what's going on.
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Sure is they are struggling to find pilots left or right seat on all fleets. Many are leaving as well. A strong USD has made the Gulf more and more attractive and THY salary and conditions lag behind even more seen the weak TL. The main issue is the inability to admit their shortcomings and acknowledge the fact that expat have different needs. Moving to Istanbul a family is a big issue without any sort of benefit.. Rosters remain s a big issue on narrow body with min time off. The 4 block day off they think of as a benefit and max 20 days of leave plus salary deduction for sick leave and few other draconian rules do not help.Few other practices do not seem to fit into a major global airline. The benchmark as some one correctly said are still local ex military pilots working their asses off to maintain their spoiled kids in as ineffective as expensive private schools and uncritically taking it as it comes . Quality and quantity cannot go together.Overall their expansion ambitions seems unrealistic..but I belieive they have the capability to find solutions once they will get rid of some "ballast". A few holes in the cheese remains aligned and the expansion will make them bigger unless some radical change will happen soon. This also in terms of expat T&C. Not much would be needed to attract the right candidates ( starting with equal conditions on all fleets) and not Lion Air P2F and turboprop kids... not really what THY needs.
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I just got an email from a contract agency for THY stating "20% pay increase Effective Immediately"
Is there something I'm unaware of...cause no one at THY has been told. Why can agencies state this total BS and get away with it??
I guess at THY you can get 20% pay increase in 1 year but still have no change in US$. There will always be pay rises in Turkish Lira, but the important question is what it translates to in a real currency?
Is there something I'm unaware of...cause no one at THY has been told. Why can agencies state this total BS and get away with it??
I guess at THY you can get 20% pay increase in 1 year but still have no change in US$. There will always be pay rises in Turkish Lira, but the important question is what it translates to in a real currency?
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Expect at least 3500 to 4400 TL for a decent apartment in a nice neighborhood. Someone says Istanbul is cheap... I find it very expensive. To have a comparable life style, Europe is much much cheaper. Try buy a car, put fuel in iti..go out for dinner in a decent place..they will rip you off. If you want to live in some peripheral areas.. it becomes cheaper but your quality of life goes down vertically and you will really feel you are not in Europe.Beside driving is vastly ....impossible.
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You're looking in the wrong neighbourhoods. You can find very decent and new apartments in good area's for half that money.
Its basically the same in every big city, downtown is more expensive etc.
Its basically the same in every big city, downtown is more expensive etc.
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You're looking in the wrong neighbourhoods. You can find very decent and new apartments in good area's for half that money.
Its basically the same in every big city, downtown is more expensive etc.
Its basically the same in every big city, downtown is more expensive etc.
Where?? Halkali maybe, which is an isolated dump.
Come up with some evidence and say which areas, cause I have NEVER seen the price you're referring to for NEW apartments in GOOD areas.
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http://www.hurriyetemlak.com/
On the right top choose the british flag
Car prices and the gas are off the hook. However a decent house and living(dining and some others) are not inaffordable.
On the right top choose the british flag
Car prices and the gas are off the hook. However a decent house and living(dining and some others) are not inaffordable.
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I recommend you stay as far as possible from that outfit. Don't get fooled.
You will end flying 1000 hours in 11 month. Add to this that Istanbul has one of the worst quality of life in the world, packed with cars, no greenery, absurd construction and very expensive you will end up living in some dump as I did ( Halkali) to save some money form your constantly eroded ) salary. Istanbul in Europe? Think twice. Its an acceptable gig if you are a retired legacy 777 captain looking for some post retirement cash with hotel and commuting. For the rest just AVOID.
You will end flying 1000 hours in 11 month. Add to this that Istanbul has one of the worst quality of life in the world, packed with cars, no greenery, absurd construction and very expensive you will end up living in some dump as I did ( Halkali) to save some money form your constantly eroded ) salary. Istanbul in Europe? Think twice. Its an acceptable gig if you are a retired legacy 777 captain looking for some post retirement cash with hotel and commuting. For the rest just AVOID.
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Pork I can agree with part of what you say and still on a lower note. There have been many issues with this THY expat experiment. Some are still ongoing...some have been solved and many will be as they approach EASA.
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As the new rule implied by THY for the foreign 737 FOs( no upgrade to 777 if in excess of 1000-1500TT) the ones already mentioned, are lookin for some of the various openings in the ME.
Thats the reason why they put the majority of their cadets on to the 737 fleet. Almost no (yabancis) are joining the 737 fleet. Kudos.
Cheerio
Thats the reason why they put the majority of their cadets on to the 737 fleet. Almost no (yabancis) are joining the 737 fleet. Kudos.
Cheerio
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I feel a little drunk or I may have lost my english skills.... WHAT?!
They wouldn't allow a foreign 737-FO to transition onto the 777 if the individual has more than 1500 hours (total or 737-time)? Jesus christ, this is going to be a hell of a career then. The transition to the 330-fleet is not affected?
I learned that they are short of staff on the '37. How's the situation on the narrowbody Airbus? Are non-rated F/O's joining on Boeing and Airbus?
Any insiders around?
They wouldn't allow a foreign 737-FO to transition onto the 777 if the individual has more than 1500 hours (total or 737-time)? Jesus christ, this is going to be a hell of a career then. The transition to the 330-fleet is not affected?
I learned that they are short of staff on the '37. How's the situation on the narrowbody Airbus? Are non-rated F/O's joining on Boeing and Airbus?
Any insiders around?
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