The Qatar posts sound about the same...high negativity level... as EK's, but then manay Qatar posters say EK is light years better than Qatar. Does not make sense.
I had applied at EK, but now do not meet the minimums, as I only have about 400 hours on a plane that is big enough.
I will probably soon be based in DBX flying a DC-9.
To all contemplating the decision between EK or QR;
I have flown for both, currently with the Dubai bunch. What can I say, other than EK is completely mismanaged and rapidly losing the plot in some fairly fundamental areas, including flight safety.
The remuneration 'deal' (not to be confused with contract) is steadily heading in the wrong direction, and terms and conditions will be eroded after you arrive, regardless of what you think you signed on joining..........
Just another good reason not to come to the sand pit.
It's been said time and time again about the T&C's in this airline, no matter what they say at interview and how they dress the job and company up in flowers and make it look pretty, it's NOT. It's all going down hill fast, no doubt at all.
Unless you're faced with floods, riots, starvation and poverty stay where you are.
Oh yeah and another good reason. Dewa just doubled everyone's utillity bills last month, expat tax they called it
You guys should check out the Resignation thread on this board and ask yourselves why so many are packing their bags, at a time when jobs are realtively scarce????
Please make up your mind before joining EK...For those who have no Job at all-probably- but for those who have a job for the moment, stay there !!!
Lots of people joined EK as the market was booming and it was a GREAT place to work till 9 months ago. The managment is going ways for the moment and only God knows these ways...It has been proven over decades that what EK is doing for the moment to their pilots will go against them sooner or later..
If you want to have changes every day, more notes (FCI, FCN and so on) If you want your contract changed in a daily basis ( not for your good but for them) if you want to be treated like a monkey, work around 88-90 hours a month ( just below the threshold before overtime), get during your standby only nightshifts to India until the night becomes your day, if you want to get a warning letter for not peeing straight, forgetting your cap or loosing your ID card. If you want to stay at home in Dubai during the time that your wife gets birth to child in the country called home... ( I could continue but it would burst the size of the forum...)
I was as my colleagues proud to work for this company, but the times have changed, PLEASE, PLEASE be aware of that !!!!!!
Greetings from the sandpit ( or called Golden Cage),
CP
From one group of new joiners last fall who were in temp acc for over 8-10 months...Out of 18 pilot familes...3 have split up.....
them the facts....
Listen to mensaboy everyone as I dont want to have you sitting next to me in the flight deck in 6 months time complaining you didnt know about whats happening at EK.
You have been warned yet again!!!
I have a safe job in the UK but am looking to move to the middle east with my family, purely to make more money to pay off flying debts. Is it worth it, after expenses, schools etc ?
I think that the numbers of DEC:s will be very small in EK in the future. They have changed the criteria from "widebody command" to "1500 hours on type in EK". I believe there are very few rated guys that would leave their current job for EK and now all the 747-400 guys are out.