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Old 4th November 2009, 21:55   #81 (permalink)
 
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That's good news. With all the pending lawsuits and unpaid bills, people on the other hand of the line will be happy to hear it

By the way, how come their N registered Sovereigns and CJ2 are still doing illegal charter work without anyone complaining?
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Old 8th November 2009, 10:28   #82 (permalink)
 
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What's up with PJ's complete (managed) fleet for sale? PR stunt, replacing fleet or closing shop?
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Old 8th November 2009, 13:42   #83 (permalink)
 
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BeeBop - are the aircraft being advertised anywhere? What happened to the "saviour investor" and wages about to be paid? The plot thickens...
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Old 9th November 2009, 06:17   #84 (permalink)
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Hey, I'm thinking to apply there at PJ, so I thought to drop a word, to know if it worth the move or what? My friend asked to do so,whom works there and said it is ok...
I'm new to the whole experience of working outside my country..
any inputs would be appreciated.. Many thanks in advance.

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Old 9th November 2009, 08:03   #85 (permalink)
 
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Been flying in the region long enough and met most of their crews, if u wann be treated like sh!t, you should apply there
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Old 10th November 2009, 07:44   #86 (permalink)
 
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asdf1234 - PJ's aircraft are advertised in one of the standard online aircraft sales magazines. Do not remember which.
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Old 10th November 2009, 23:13   #87 (permalink)
 
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Thanks Beebop and well spotted. Does anyone have news on the supposed saviour/investor or is this just another rumour being peddled for the outside world?
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Old 11th November 2009, 03:26   #88 (permalink)
 
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The best investment one could make is a pair of ranger boots to kick the three deeb dumb brothers out
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Old 14th November 2009, 15:20   #89 (permalink)
 
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I am not Fat Clemenza

For those of you that tune in to the rants here on Prestige Jet...... please note that I am not Fat Clemenza and if I had a complaint about my current employer or former employer I would have way more class then to bash them on a public forum. That being said anyone that knows me knows I come to you face to face with either praise or insult, so if you are worried that I am Fat Clemenza and saying things about you or the company I am not and will not do it in this forum, you will know when I am upset or happy as I will let you know in person.
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Old 14th November 2009, 18:39   #90 (permalink)
 
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Man get your ignorant cocky doodoo filled nose and give lessons elsewhere, I know most of your pilots and ground staff in that dumpster u call prestige to just just open dozens of pages about your illegal practices from flight operations to staff treatment. There's no need to work there to know it and it's a secret to no one in this forum or any other place.

And don't even talk about class, please don't, you're just giving the boot to be hit in the arse with. I did not open this 5 page thread about prestige sh!t, just try to wonder why people got so much to say
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Old 16th November 2009, 13:53   #91 (permalink)
 
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Poor practices aside - is the company going down or has a "white knight" stepped in?
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Old 16th November 2009, 14:21   #92 (permalink)
 
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According to some Legacy staff

2 aircraft for lease
5 labour cases in court
1 lawsuit for aircraft reposession
9 grounded pilots
Bahrain base being shutdown, unpaid salaries for november in abu dhabi and bahrain
One investor supposedly should be the savior, otherwise word on the accouting street the company will go belly up in not too long...

Wish the best for everyone and to jump ship on time
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Old 16th November 2009, 18:27   #93 (permalink)
 
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Well Fat Clemenza if you know most of our pilots then you may even know me but tell you what.......... bring your boot on and see if you can put it there......cause I will meet you anytime anywhere in the middle east and give you your shot...... so that you know I am serious ask the pilots you do know if Juston Clement takes crap from punks like you. So dude bring it one of us will get our behind spanked but you will have it to do as I will not take your boorish crap!
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Old 16th November 2009, 20:11   #94 (permalink)
 
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your brave little boy's pride got hurt? souds like a teenager trying to prove himself but again sonny, just try to wonder why such a page exists about ur prestigious sht...
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Old 17th November 2009, 06:06   #95 (permalink)
 
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posting anonymously is cowardly, if you have something to say to someone then say it to their face. I do not think that you got my point. It was not about P J it was about if you work for someone you should have the guts and integrity to voice your oppinion to them directly not anonymously on a public forum. As for my first post it was done to clear the air that I am not you. the second post was in response to your childish comments and offering you the opportunity to discuss it in person. Semper Fi Juston Clement
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Old 17th November 2009, 12:16   #96 (permalink)
 
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In case you think I work fr them, you must be out your mind. I did consider it about a year ago and thank God I never bought your DO's bs about fair treatment and rapid upgrades to bigger aircraft, and I know I'm not the only one in this case

Just read back the last couple of pages and try to figure if your employer gives a ****, but I guess your butt kissing attitude tells a lot. What are you trying to prove? That you're a decent employee who even when they treat u like sht?

Anyways, just try to be helpful to others and share any inside information you may have to others on this forum so they know before they sign or even apply...
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Old 17th November 2009, 18:23   #97 (permalink)
 
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KC130 - if you are still working (and getting paid?) by PJ why don't you offer up the "good news"?

Is there an investor about to step in or is PJ doomed?

Given that Fat Clemenza has the info that the aircraft are up for sale/lease, the staff are unpaid, at least one base is closing etc... you'd have to admit the outlook looks bleak.

I'm all for employee loyalty but if the s**t is about to be flung all over the wall surely best to give advance warning? Obviously if you are outside the loop then you can't comment....
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Old 17th November 2009, 20:51   #98 (permalink)
 
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PJ

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I think you have gotten a bit off subject, which it seems a lot of people have in relationship to PJ. There is enough info on this and other web sites, that anybody who would entertain the idea of signing up with PJ would have enough information to make their OWN DECISION about the company. I knew they were having problems when I did a short contract this yea,r for PJ. but I wanted to see it first hand. There are guys who are perhaps trying to make the best of what they have with PJ, whilst they look for something better, and I have to applaud this gesture. PJ is not easy to work for, and the owners and some management staff are to blame for this.

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Old 19th November 2009, 14:54   #99 (permalink)
 
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Drifting

Dear KC130DESERTFLYER, Fat Clemenza and the rest,
I do agree that there is a drift from the core issue, being the truth about PJ and what the existing employment conditions are like there. After all, our aim is to let the truth be known to those who do not know it or perhaps know a part of it. This is only fair whether it is for the purpose of those attempting to work for PJ, or those still being cheated by the management. I happen to personally know Fat Clemenza and KC130Desretflyer. Both are typical foreign employees who have been seeking better opporunities for themselves, and in pusuing this they have both been working hard. It is OK to have different points of view, and even argue, but I hate to lose any of them in the pursuit of the main course of our core issue. You both have valuable information. Please. let us use it to save the rest. It is for valuable inputs in this forum that we have succeeded in seeing less of the low class comments and misleading information by the Deeb's. Haven't you noticed that Faris Deeb (DUBAI981) and his middle brother Ihsan Deeb have been made speechless and been swallowing their tongues for quite sometime? Truth must have been rather painful for them. This, together with the fact that they had no arguments or points to use in order to defend their collapsing empire, made others advise them not to show themselves up by trying to respond to the numerous well delivered inputs by professionals and caring individuals.
I do hope that the individual, who is still seeking information as he contemplates joining PJ, will read the various relevant threads carefully and do his research well before making any decision.
Finally, I do agree with Fat Clemenza that the "White Knight" would only be able to save this company by getting rid of the Deeb's. Then, and only then would there be hope for a better future for the decent and honest employees who deserve better chances.
Finally, honesty and decency shall live and prevail even if after a long struggle with the evil.
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