I work for PJ and everything he said is true, many foreigners’ pilots are leaving; few Spanish will stay because they are dreamers.
A new team try to make it good but I don’t think the 3 brothers will give them the money and power to achieve it.
Actually everything is on cash pay, no more credit, and for the crew salaries are pay late and per diem have not been paid since 4 months.
But for the pilots who are looking for slaving and exhausting job, PJ will recruit soon because their pilots are leaving to better sky.
To the owner of PJ ,the company is a small investment that is peanuts compared to his other businesses. Moreover, the real truth about his relationship with PJ CEO is one of a great disappointment after some facts came to the surface. But much grounds had already been covered to a point of no return. The Deebs have twisted his arm (a break away would be too painful and full of losses). So a long term recovery has been the strategy of the owner with chances given to the Deebs to re course, and repair the damage. The poor thing still has faith in them. Besides, he knows nothing about aviation to the extent that he thinks that the Deebs do!!
At least, I know for sure that they were deceitful, dishonest, and did not respect agreements nor contracts. They played many dirty games and tricks with them. One example that would amaze anyone: while PJ was on contract with Arab Wings to lease the latter's aircraft and operate them from Dubai, the Deebs passed info to the GCAA regarding violations supposedly committed by Arab Wings which led to banning AW A/C from operating from Dubai for some time. PJ then intervened and "saved" AW from a serious problem!! The intention was to prove to AW that PJ was their savier in the UAE, and so AW would give in to their terms in cases of disputes. If you do not believe this story, please verify it with AW.
Similar tricks were palyed by PJ management with Bexair, some of which aimed at forcing BA to give up leased A/C so that PJ would move in and get them. Again, you may verify this info.
that sounds real dirty, but hey that is how it works out here! if you aint on your toes better be ready to get beat!
"vaasta mal fog al kanoon" was what i heard when i was a kid and i still adher to that!
Now every payment is cash for fuel & hotels (no more credit). They have decided the new contract is 2 months ON 1month OFF, crew are on duty 60 days in a row and doing between 60 to 100H flight hours in 30 days.
Exterminator, your post "Exacty what they did to AW"..
Sounds to me like AW should have had their paperwork up to snuff in the first place. Then the GCAA wouldn't have any questions about who had operational control of the aircraft and the resulting "violations." Maybe AW was guilting of trying to make a quick buck too.
The schedule was always 60 on 30 off, they had some idiot who tried to change that, and when the tech crews started walking away from the aircraft, the decided to go back to what had been. Another ME knee jerk idiot move that only cost them more money and cost them a huge loss of face. I feel for the guys that are hanging on, it has got to be similar to the Titanic after hitting the Ice Burg. Good Luck
Hi folks
Would be interested to know which branch of PJ all this refers to- all of them? A friend of mine has been approached in BAH- what's the story there- same horror stories as I've read on this thread?
Dear Marana,
Relations between the two companies were more complicated than what an outsider knows. I am not trying to defend AW but the truth is that PJ played the "Mr. Savier", and "Mr. Knows-it-all" on AW in the UAE. They told them stories about their capabilities and what would work and what would not in the area. Like any other foreign company/investor in the UAE, AW went by all that was said by PJ(a native UAE company with the wasta and power in the area). This turned out to be a mine field!
Not sure how far PJ got in launching their branch in Bahrain, but the truth is that wherever the Deebs lay their hands, there is pollution and corruption. One of their games that they played on a Canadian pilot was to pull him out of Bexair where he was flying a Sovereign so that he may join PJ Abu Dhabi and fly one of their Sovereigns. He had a Canadian and a Bahraini licenses. They told him that getting a UAE license would take a few days with their wasta (influence) at the GCAA. He had to wait for months for this UAE license, where he was grounded during which period he was instructed a number of times to fly an "N" registered Sovereign which was a shear violation since he had no FAA license. Then he was promised to join PJ Bahrain where he could fly there with his Bahraini license!! This is a typical story where Faris Deeb has been cunning innocent and decent people into joining his cesspit. This episode cost the concerned pilot months of his career life waiting for PJ false promises!
I flew with that pilot on an N registered aircraft, I was under the impression he had an FAA license, great guy too. He regretted joining them and leaving Bahrain.
this company seems to be on the brink of collapse.
Blacklisted by jetaviation worldwide, owing 1.2M to embraer for their lineage maintneance, one legacy and one sovereign are back on the lease market, $200k is owed to the CJ2 owner, catering is no longer on credit, that's without even counting all unpaid salaries and per diems. Heard their crews haven't received their per diems for the past six months
3 captains won their cases at the labor board for breach of contract and word on the street is they were begging them to come back to work after terminating them...
Well guess what, PJ Top Management finally made a right decision...yes you read it right - they made a right decision. THEY SACKED THE 2 EGYPTIAN RATS. Yes folks, a sensible decision was finally made. Word on the steet is there may be a new investor just around the corner. Word on the street is that ALL outstanding per diems, expense claims etc etc will be paid in the next 7 days. Word on the street is that salaries will be back to being paid on time. It may not be such a bad world after all.... My heart goes out to all the employees who have hung in there through thick and thin, for better or for worse and through the ups and downs. Yes there was a slight struggle through the recession - but hey who isn't struggling. Were there any terminations due to the slump? NO. Were the jet flying constantly? YES. Are they a real threat to other operators in the Middle East? Of course they are. Viva Prestige Jet
I think the top management are finaly listening to some of their trusted employees. Not all of the employees - just the ones who know what they are on about...
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