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Old 4th July 2009, 19:28   #41 (permalink)
 
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This is the TRUTH

Dear B737,
TRUTH is always painful to the weak and shaky. In the case of PJ management, it is weak, shaky and corrupt. This additional element will make the TRUTH burn them, not only cause them pain.
Speaking of the TRUTH, all the facts uncovered about PJ management with all the violations and corrupt practices still continue. They are even worsening. Every decent employee is advised to think seriously and clearly, and make up his/her mind regarding the fate of his/her employment at this corrupt and polluted establishment before it is too late.
Best of luck to all the good people at PJ.
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Old 5th July 2009, 01:53   #42 (permalink)
 
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Prestige

What b737best is basically correct. I did a contract this year for them for 6 weeks, it was cut short three weeks when a FA filed a complaint about being " treated badly". The same flight attendant had stolen a tip and was suspected to have done this type of thing in the past. She was caught red handed. The company is totally un-organized, owes money all over the place, does not honor duty times or contracts. I think it is just a matter of time and they will head the same direction as Bexair. I also understand that prior to October last year, they were doing alright, and most of the tech crew were happy, but typical, allowed a group of foreign accountants in to run the show, with NO aviation background, and it started going south, the same thing Bexair did.

You would want to talk to someone else in the organization currently before signing up with these guys. And by the way, I did not run accross anyone who's command of the english language is as bad as Tayar, so I suspect this individual is perhaps an actor/Used car salesman/CEO.
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Old 5th July 2009, 11:17   #43 (permalink)
 
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Fossil

Strange person alert.
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Old 18th July 2009, 09:38   #44 (permalink)
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Thanx All

Dear All,

I would like to thank everyone for their posts in threads related to Prestige Jet. and i would like to invite everyone to write to me and get a clear picture about prestige jet.

We are in the market, despite all of the roumers and bad mouthing said about prestige jet and the deeb family ( prestige jet and the DEEB family ) are still alive, and again these posts are so important to us as its more than a marketing campaign for us, and through this forum we are getting a lot of resumes and proffisional people are joining us.

by logic if we are bad company, bad payers, bad management the company wouldn't remain till now.

for any questions about prestige, please dont hesitate to contact me and even you are welcome for a visit to our company.

regards,

Ihsan Deeb
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Old 18th July 2009, 14:22   #45 (permalink)
 
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planet zog ?

You must be on another planet ! rest of the world 15 - deeb nil................. Do you really know what's going on ? Surely not !
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Old 18th July 2009, 21:11   #46 (permalink)
 
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Stop Looking The Other Way

Dear Ihsan Deeb,

It is clear to all of us that you just have no idea how this World Works. Everyone knows about anything that happens in the industry and it dose not matter how many times you try to make a fool of yourself saying otherwise.

I am not going to go into if you are a good company or not, if you are corrupt or not, nor wish that things go wrong for you as if it goes bad for you it goes very bad for all that we live from this business. What I am going to tell you and is just because its good for you is the following:

1- Don’t blame other people about the chaos you have in your organisation.
2- Listen to those who have been working for you so long and are still working hard, as you know, withstanding completely unfair behaviour from you and your brother. They are not against you they are in the same boat.
3- Going into technical advice let your crews carry Cash and visas like the rest of the industry and trust your pilots. If you trust your pilots the life of your best clients believe me they can handle a few bills.
4- Pay in time and make people respect your name and the companies name.
5- Respect and good words work a LOT better.

If you listen to this advise and trust those that know what they are doing and have spent so much time, worries and even tears for a company that its not even theirs you could save 1 million dollars a year.
YES 1 MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR you read well.

You are paying hundreds of thousands of dollars for services that are not needed if your crews have a simple valid credit card. This would also reduce 90% of the internal caos in the operation. Fuel you are paying is just like buying liquid gold for the engines!! And more, and more, and more.

My boss is a man that barely knows how to read or write and has made millions and respected by millions of people. He just knows how to listen and trusts his team. I know that you have had in your organisation many people trying to steal money. Just to many controllers, advisors, good friends of your partners etc but they don’t know the business. Listen to those how have demonstrated day after day that they support you and that your brother only starts shouting at them as soon as anything goes a “wrong” (normally something created by him as he thinks the world is waiting for you to fly).

You can still change things but don’t destroy those trying to help you by mistreating them, destroying your reputation buy not having a word that any man has, and not paying your people and those that feel Prestige like part of their family, more than you in fact.

Don’t try to guess who I am I’m Mat Gunning nothing to do with you but I have very good friends working for you and I have seen them CRY literally due to the frustration of not being able to get things right just because of you and your brothers.

Please change and make a company that people can only talk wonders.

Hope the best for you and OUR industry.
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Old 18th July 2009, 21:52   #47 (permalink)
 
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Due to the frustration of not being able to get things right just because of you and your brothers.
Your advices might be right, but won't help without getting a proper understanding of aviation operations. It seems to be the root of many mismanagement situations in the region.
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Old 19th July 2009, 01:56   #48 (permalink)
 
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Prestige

Matt
Good thread, sounds exactly like it is. I doubt they wil listen, but then again YOU NEVER KNOW.

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Old 19th July 2009, 10:52   #49 (permalink)
 
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Can you please elaborate on this one? Just being curious...

Last edited by MiguelIB : 5th November 2009 at 20:30. Reason: included quote of deleted post
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Old 20th July 2009, 03:39   #50 (permalink)
 
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new staff ??

I wonder how long the minor exodus from IWA will spend with this lot ? My money says a month or two max.....

Good luck T & S, you're going to need it !

sfly, if you have to ask the question, you wouldn't understand the answer.

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Old 20th July 2009, 11:24   #51 (permalink)
 
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sfly, if you have to ask the question, you wouldn't understand the answer.
Then can't you explain it to me? I'll buy you a coffee
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Old 13th August 2009, 22:09   #52 (permalink)
 
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PJ=QPJ

Thank God I am out of that outfit! I've heard that PJ is starting up a new operation in Qatar called QPJet. Any truth in that? Also, my source said that QCAA is being pretty thorough on them, checking all their books... but PJ are not taking it seriously. They seem like tough guys over there and do everything to the letter.
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Old 14th August 2009, 16:24   #53 (permalink)
 
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Can anyone who works for pj tell us what the salary is for cc and how many hours they fly per month average?
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Old 15th August 2009, 09:18   #54 (permalink)
 
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With N tails sounds to me like Mr. Jones trying to make a quick buck in some probably corrupt country....avoid such outfits like the plague
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Old 16th August 2009, 09:02   #55 (permalink)
 
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new staff

How are the imports from istithmar coping with the smoke and mirrors ??
Anybody know ?
WTF is going on with this company and is the wasta so strong as to keep the gcaa at bay ?
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Old 9th September 2009, 21:08   #56 (permalink)
 
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Tayar/Fossil - Beware they walk among us !!
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Old 27th September 2009, 16:16   #57 (permalink)
 
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PJ on his last breath

This is it for PJ...the Deeb dumb family will hopefully be on their way out soon, after stealing money from every part of their operation, the 3 dumb dumb brothers will "inshallah" end up in a place where there a§§hole will become bigger than their mouth ,the truth is coming out slowly, the operation is almost stopped due to no money nowhere to pay for anything.
I guess now, us the others operators in the region will start operating again normally.Thank you PJ .
Sad for the good crews Pilots and FAs that kept this shitty operation running for that long. Kuddos to them
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Old 27th September 2009, 21:05   #58 (permalink)
 
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A Lie

May I add a word of wisdom to the Deeb brats: "A lie can only live for so long". They have been living a lie, and it looks like the lie's life is approaching an end!!
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Old 30th September 2009, 09:31   #59 (permalink)
 
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why all the hating?

Why all the hating exterminator, by reading your post and ur nick, i feel like you are out to destroy PJ.

But if what u say is true! ppl better watch out since there is no protection for the working class around here!
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Old 1st October 2009, 21:24   #60 (permalink)
 
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Warning Rather Than Hatred

Dear OLT and Others,
If PJ had done to you what they had done to me and others like me, you would not hesitate to do the same and may be more. The pledge and commitment that I made to myself was to warn all the honest and hardworking people whose fate was for them to end up in the land of slavery working for corrupt companies like PJ. I, plus some others were cunned into quitting our jobs in our home countries and joining PJ having been promised the moon by the Deebs. Needless to say, once we were under their control, the real image materialized. Don't you think that others should learn from the bitter experience we went through? after all it is a free advice that is not binding to anyone. You and others don't even have to believe it, let alone follow it. In case you have not noticed, I have been requesting that people verify the credibility and truthfulness of every piece of information that I put forward for readers to benefit from.
As for destroying PJ, if ever this was their fate, it is because of their corrupt and evil practices not because of what I might be able to achieve. After all, I am just an ordinary person with no money, nor power. It is PJ management that has it all. I pray that there shall be no more victims of theirs in the future.
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