Each time a new topic is launched about Prestige we see new joiners jumping into the discussion, always with the same weird English... that doesn't give a very good image for the company...
SFLY you didnt know anything abuot Prestige Jet. This is good operator in the Middle East. We have good life here and fly well mantenance aircrat. You want to come to Prestige and cannot pass a fliyng test. You cannot is good pilot, come and see why Prestige Jet are the best fo Middle East and soon the world. We is groing very much and will continue to grow with the crisis in the financial. Yes you say is new each time you say new post, but the truth is that pilots for Prestige is pride to work for that company. We will defence Prestige with my life if we have to. You expat only come here for money and doesn't care about culture or any regard for personal. So doesn't say what you say and come here to say what you say.
Prestige Jet have the goodest mantenance man in the middle east. We have company to fix equipment and other operator's come to us for fix his airplane. So do not come and say bulshit and say this crap you want to say and come and say that what you say all the time. We tired at Prestige of all people to come and say any eubish the say and do not have facts for hat they say all the time. Do not come and wast our precios time and waste our time here with rubish post.
SFLY and Termintor, you is full of crap for talking like these for Prestige Jet. You go to back to your country and talk bad rubish about your company you work for in your country.
Prestige Jet is good operator who take well care of his employers. All expats come to Middle East and want money money. You only doesnt care about the operator you works for. You only want the money at the end of the 30 day. you doesnt deserve to come and fly for best middle east company. Prestige Jet have very hard selection proces and only got the most good pilot to fly his airplanes.
Expats who talk rubish about Prestige Jet only wants to fly there and not get choose. We have good mantenance aircraft and have one company t do the mantanence with good mantenance man. You do not talk about Prestige that the plane is good o bad. Just say the facts and not the rubish. If we had bad mantenance we not aprove for to fly with OAC.
So all you who came to talk rubish all the time only to come and say what you want DONT... you will not say that rubish anymore and go away with it. We are not tolerate thi rubish until more.
This last post lets you know what kind of people they hire at Prestige Jet. This is Prestige Jet's talent at its best. I especially like his Level 6 English which makes you wonder how these pilots are able to go for training and pass.
TAYAR, like you say that all expat pilots talk "rubish", but if you can show otherwise, don't say that Prestige has good maintenance, look at the way I spelled the word MAINTENANCE. Everyone knows that Prestige utilizes non-certified mechanics and play around with the log books to make it seem "legal".
Unfortunately it will take a serious mishap or accident where innocent people are paying a lot of money to get a "Well Inspected" and in flyable condition aircraft and once again they are lied to. It is a shame that authorities are so cheap on this side of the world and can be bought so easily. If Prestige Jet has a real inspection, ALL of their aircraft would be grounded at once and for all.
I think that SFLY and terminator were talking in a thoroughly professional and RESPECTABLE manner voicing concerns and/or dislikes about the company in question unlike what you posted, which is neither professional nor polite.
PJ's HARD selection PROCESS obviously does not extend to English language skills judging by your post
Expats AND local pilots do want to get the paycheck at the end of the month..please don't tell me that you work for free
For your next posts..if any, i urge you to act in a manner befitting a professional TAYAR ( i.e pilot for the uninitiated amongst you ) since your post is anything but.
p.s in your effort defend your company image, you achieved exactly the
opposite
pp.s i am a local ( i.e Arab ) pilot flying for my country's national carrier
not in the gulf region
Yes Prestige have hard selection process, that is we are the best in the industry. So dont say rubish like you say.
Everyone who is comeing to Prestige can send message and I tell you the truth. Everyone else want to say rubish about Prestige. We hire only best in industry, that is why were in the best indstry. Why? We are good and have best talent of all area.
Prstige Jet expanding to the rest of the world with more office. We have over 200 million in the bank for buying more aircraft and more office. All companys closing down like Gulf Jet but we still in busines. So dont say the rubish you say, OK.
Prestige Jet only hire qalify people. You probably is gelous about not being able to come in Prestige jet for work. We have hard proces for selection. Only the best come to Prestige. So dont say the rubish you say about Prestige Jet. You can semd mesage to me and I will tell you facts about Prestige Jet.
The mantenance is best in middle east. We have company to do mantenance for other company with good man working there and they have good job so dont say the rubish abotu we is going to crash.
We keeps all logbooks in safe place all time. The mantenance man always check airplane for errors and fix if they have. So dont say rubish about the mantenance books is not good. OK.
Everyone is only gelous of Prestige Jet and wants to come here but we have hard selection proces to select only qalified people. So if you thinks to come to the best Prestige Jet is the best because we are the best in the middle east and the world we have more offices than Elite, Empire, and have over 200 million in the bank for continue to have more office.
All everyone saying about Prestige Jet is RUBISH. We is a solid company to working for.
Tayar you are doing a good job to give a very bad image of Prestige and I'm sure you know it. In fact they don't need your "help" to have problems so please no need to do too much as it is halam.
Your passion and love for prestige is well observed. However, it would be in your own best interest and the also the company's that you keep information such as the amount of money in your company's account confidential. And judging by your age, you seem to be a well experienced person with an understanding of these matters.
Indeed if you would like to protect prestige, an insightful essay about how the company recruits its pilots and maintenance personnel would be a good start. I am pretty sure that any one that is educated that reads these forums would be more interested in an insightful article rather then the scandalous mudslinging that is happening.
Haram is the correct spelling, if you allow me.
I have been following this for a while now, at one point it stops to be ammazing, I totally agree with you.
I suggest laying this all to rest and getting back to work.
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You are such a spoilsport Vert.....that Mr T. is priceless, and saying it is "-just too easy" belittles his finest attempts to refute the "rubish" that is being slung at his company!
tayar good try to give us a bad picture of arabic pilots and to prestige company ,just to inform every body this guy name tayar not arabic and hes fierd from this company ,I know this guy very well.
I wondered if perhaps TAYAR WAS A FAKE, AN ACTOR, STIRRING UP THE FLIES. How could someone with such a poor control of the written English language, how could this same individual work ATC, ground control, or tower with out a reprimand or have the captain take over so that they could keep on schedule. I know two captains working for Prestige, and the word is "caution" I have never met an Arab pilot with such a ridiculous grasp of the English language. Got to be a farce.
HI FAT CROCK,I know you are covering your name under arabic name(tayar) .my advise to you play another game and dont eat much.by the way the two captains you mention them who fierd you because you know nothing in aviation.and sorry this my last comment in PPRuNe forums .
Last edited by jordan pilot : 25th March 2009 at 14:09.
Dear All,
May I remind you, especially those who seem to have resorted to using the foul language and the substandard English, that we really need to keep the dialogue professional. This means clean, meaningful and for a good purpose.
I must at this point commend the two Arab pilots and the third pilot from an Arab origin (American Arab) who are working for Prestige, for their professional airmanship. However, we should never generalize that all Arab pilots are professionals, nor that all American pilots (for instance) are otherwise, and are hungry for money, etc..
During my service at PJ, I met with American pilots who are real gentelemen and very good pilots. I wish them every success in their career.
The real issue, is whether good or bad , professional or otherwise most of those working for PJ belong to one of the following categories:
A category that does not really know what they are in for in such a deceitful organization (headed by a master of corruption) where there will come a day when they will be struck by the truth.
A category that has discovered the truth, wholly or partially but are stuck with bonds, or other commitments such as kids at schools, etc. and can not act for the time being.
I would also add a category that involves one person only due to his unique situation, and that is the owner of the company, who thought he was entring a partnership with a good person like himself, and lately discovered the truth at this stage where he can not decide whether it is a non return point, or a recoverable one. Time will show the course of action on his part where he will either pull out or try to mend what the CEO has damaged.
No matter what happens, I wish all the good people at PJ the best of luck.
SFLY & MotoMoto,
With my due respect, you do not seem to know very much about Prestige Jet. Therefore, you as well as many others were distracted by the Tayar's fake displays and pretentious poor English. Tayar is yet another desparate attempt by their CEO to defend a pitiful management. He has been devising a number of nicknames to respond to the remarks justifiably passed by many professional people who had bad experiences with Prestige Jet plus other critics.
In the "Tayar" responses, the CEO is overdoing the act of the poor English. In other posts he made a better job, but in this one he made a mess. Knowing the level of his intelligence, and the way he has been reared, this is not a strange thing.
Back to the facts and issues of substance, I would say that the maintenance staff at Prestige Jet are decent and knowledgeable. Unfortunately, their problems are numerous, starting with the lack of authorizations, licensure and type ratings all the way to the low morale due to the slavery type of employment. For instance, did you know that they had only one planner supporting more than 10 aircraft?!! did you know that on average he has been putting more than 17 hours a day without fulfilling the tasks under his area of responsibility? Did you know that requests posed for over a year now for more recruits to cover this vital area of the maintenance have been declined by the CEO because the nominees are "expensive". There is not an area in the maintenance that has not been suffering from a serious problem with the CEO burrying his head in the sand (or mud for that matter!) with actions that truly translate the priciples of slavery in the middle of 2009; overwork+ underpay+crucify complainers. With the fact that he thinks he can bribe/buy GCAA inspectors, an extra blend is added to this formula. With the CEO living a big lie, the fact remains, though that a lie can only live for so long.
I dont know one employee that dont want to leave this company,dispatcher,maintenance,cabin crew are leaving one after the other,pilots same thing,4-5 resigns this year and way more to come.The deeb family is about to taste the meaning of competition and free market.Most unorganized company..been there for few month,its complete disaster of illegal manner.Heard pilots flying unqualified,the company does everything wrong.
Without maintenance,dispatcher,cabin crew and pilots this company will have shut down already 5 times.they have no idea how to run a business.
STAY FAR AWAY FROM THEM.
to give us a bad picture of arabic pilots and to prestige company ,just to inform every body this guy name tayar not arabic and hes fierd from this company ,I know this guy very well.
and sorry this my last comment in PPRuNe forums .
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