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Non-Rev - Saudi Nationals only as FO. There are some Expat FO's here but they were hired awhile back and all had extensive heavy time.
Condor - Min Guarantee is minimum salary paid each month regardless of hours flown. The actual hour (68,73,78) amount differs by type of equipment category. The hour value is only used in calculation of additional pay, Overtime etc.
For example: If you fly 40 hours - you will get your min guarantee. If you fly one hour over your min guarantee (78+1=79) you will get 1/78 of your guarantee in addition.
That is a simplified explanation. There is also productivity bonuses and increased incentives that I won't go into.
Condor - Min Guarantee is minimum salary paid each month regardless of hours flown. The actual hour (68,73,78) amount differs by type of equipment category. The hour value is only used in calculation of additional pay, Overtime etc.
For example: If you fly 40 hours - you will get your min guarantee. If you fly one hour over your min guarantee (78+1=79) you will get 1/78 of your guarantee in addition.
That is a simplified explanation. There is also productivity bonuses and increased incentives that I won't go into.
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If you have the hours to qualify for P1 A330, then apply for the B777, much better route structure and growing fleet that gives the opportunity to earn overtime. They don't care if you have flown the A330 or B777 before, you will undergo a full type rating.
Only downside to this plan is that you will be bonded on the B777 at 50% of basic salary for 4 months then 25% until they reach 100,000 Riyals, you get it back 2 years after release to the line.
Mutt
Only downside to this plan is that you will be bonded on the B777 at 50% of basic salary for 4 months then 25% until they reach 100,000 Riyals, you get it back 2 years after release to the line.
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SV Maintenance staff 2013
Hi,
Aviators just tell me as they are just expanding their fleet many folds, what is happening to technician and engineers recruitment in the first half of 2013.
Any suggestions in particular from the staff there is appreciated....... .
Aviators just tell me as they are just expanding their fleet many folds, what is happening to technician and engineers recruitment in the first half of 2013.
Any suggestions in particular from the staff there is appreciated....... .
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Does anybody know the breakdown of salary for Saudi Air. I read in one of the sites that a junior B747-4 Capt gets about US$7800, and a senior Capt of up to $30,000.
Appreciate your assistance and Thanks in advance.
MJ
Appreciate your assistance and Thanks in advance.
MJ
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Hello Mutt
Hi Mutt,
I noticed you are quite conversant with conditions @ Saudi Airlines. Would appreciate if you could give a breakdown of B747-4 Capt's income between Ist year, 2nd, and so on if possible.
Much appreciated.
mj
I noticed you are quite conversant with conditions @ Saudi Airlines. Would appreciate if you could give a breakdown of B747-4 Capt's income between Ist year, 2nd, and so on if possible.
Much appreciated.
mj
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They have never hired direct entries for the B744, so no one will be able to give you the figures that you seek. However, I will say that you are confusing salary with earnings, the basic is about $10k, the top scale about $16k (But you will never earn this). Earnings are based on productivity, overtime etc, but as I said, there are no new hire expats on this fleet, so no one to compare salaries with
I will give you the same advise as the previous guy, if you have the experience for the B744, then ask for the B777.
Mutt
I will give you the same advise as the previous guy, if you have the experience for the B744, then ask for the B777.
Mutt
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Living in Saudi
Besides all the remarks about salary....contract details can probably be requested by Contractair.
How is the life as B744 Capt in Saudi as it is clear commuting is not an option and if not having the possibility to take family with you.
Could someone please post an honest answer...who actually work/live in Saudi.
How many days do you actually spend in Jeddah, living, accommodation and how is life in general as "single" there.
Thanks in advance
How is the life as B744 Capt in Saudi as it is clear commuting is not an option and if not having the possibility to take family with you.
Could someone please post an honest answer...who actually work/live in Saudi.
How many days do you actually spend in Jeddah, living, accommodation and how is life in general as "single" there.
Thanks in advance
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Thanks for the response Mutt.
I have just been contacted for a possible direct entry B747-4. I hope it is not a wild goose chase.
Does anyone have information on interview and sim check details? Appreciate any help.
Cheers and thanks.
mj
I have just been contacted for a possible direct entry B747-4. I hope it is not a wild goose chase.
Does anyone have information on interview and sim check details? Appreciate any help.
Cheers and thanks.
mj
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I hope it is not a wild goose chase
possible direct entry B747-4
Manfromthenorth, there are 2 expats presently flying the B744, the others have retired, in some cases they were in Jeddah for nigh on 40 years, so it cant be all bad Because life on each fleet is different, it will be impractical for anyone who isnt flying the B744 to answer your question.
BTW, if you mean "single", you will have a great time, if you mean "geographically single" then it wont be easy.
They presently operate 4 B744's that only do routes to Manila and Colombo, with the usual domestic, gulf return trips. Gone are the days when Manila was a 8-10 day trip. The Cargo division will take delivery of 2 B748-F's in a few months, with a RUMOR that the airline will also take them, so this fleet could become fun or if it doesn't expand, it could be extremely boring.
Mutt