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flame_bringer....what an apt name. your name says it all. you are happy to have everyone stick their heads in the sand and pretend all is well.
let me just warn them about people like you. you are taking them to hell and hardship with false hopes and optimism based on lies. shame on you.
LEAVE WHILE YOU CAN EVERYONE AT GF!!!!
let me just warn them about people like you. you are taking them to hell and hardship with false hopes and optimism based on lies. shame on you.
LEAVE WHILE YOU CAN EVERYONE AT GF!!!!
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flame_bringer, i have nothing against locals but come on. how can you be so blind. you nationals can not even look after your own back yard. how can you expect expats to trust you when you crap on each other?
i will be as bold as to suggest that ALL management positions be given to western expats. you have had long enough to experiment with bahrainization. that crap just won't work, ESPECIALLY in your country. the longer you persevere with it, the quicker your demise, the demise of your airline, and all the families that rely on it. hand over the reigns now, not just to the ceo, but ALL the top positions and keep locals as far away as possible from management because the only thing they will do is (if not nothing), rob, corrupt, and abuse.
i am warning to my fellow pilots, expats and locals, from afar because i was there. best thing ever was leaving. so should every pilot.
i will be as bold as to suggest that ALL management positions be given to western expats. you have had long enough to experiment with bahrainization. that crap just won't work, ESPECIALLY in your country. the longer you persevere with it, the quicker your demise, the demise of your airline, and all the families that rely on it. hand over the reigns now, not just to the ceo, but ALL the top positions and keep locals as far away as possible from management because the only thing they will do is (if not nothing), rob, corrupt, and abuse.
i am warning to my fellow pilots, expats and locals, from afar because i was there. best thing ever was leaving. so should every pilot.
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You are such a professional at biting the hand that has once fed you, If you can't have respect to your former employer and fully dedicate your time at bashing it then I'm warning others of you, you are a menace to the industry.
I bet you would do it to your current employer too, while I have no intention of harming you but I reckon that people like you should have thier identity revealed and given to all of the airlines and be blacklisted from employment.
If you cant be polite when talking about someone that once upon a time fed you then you cant be entrusted to transporting passengers.
I bet you would do it to your current employer too, while I have no intention of harming you but I reckon that people like you should have thier identity revealed and given to all of the airlines and be blacklisted from employment.
If you cant be polite when talking about someone that once upon a time fed you then you cant be entrusted to transporting passengers.
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You are such a professional at biting the hand that has once fed you, If you can't have respect to your former employer and fully dedicate your time at bashing it then I'm warning others of you, you are a menace to the industry.
I bet you would do it to your current employer too, while I have no intention of harming you but I reckon that people like you should have thier identity revealed and given to all of the airlines and be blacklisted from employment.
If you cant be polite when talking about someone that once upon a time fed you then you cant be entrusted to transporting passengers.
I bet you would do it to your current employer too, while I have no intention of harming you but I reckon that people like you should have thier identity revealed and given to all of the airlines and be blacklisted from employment.
If you cant be polite when talking about someone that once upon a time fed you then you cant be entrusted to transporting passengers.
I very rarely post.
I left GF over 15 years ago (never looked back), and I might have used different words, but Brassplate is right.
One of us posted a short while ago that GF was one of the very few airline everybody wanted to be part of. Things have changed!
You seem to ignore (or forget... sorry I just realised you're only 24) that a few (not many, I admit) disappointed"locals" (as you call them) have left the ship over the years, aswell for the very same reasons.
Ops. dept. started falling apart (very fast) when M. Douglas. & J. Brown. left for retirement. Later on the two M. D.
On his last day, I met M. Douglas in the old barracks and wished him farewell. He shook my hand and said “good luck”. I today still remember the look on his face; he meant it and he knew what he was talking about.
I didn’t ... yet!
MP
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I bet you would do it to your current employer too, while I have no intention of harming you but I reckon that people like you should have thier identity revealed and given to all of the airlines and be blacklisted from employment.
and wrong again, i have made no bad comments about my previous employers and my current employer, just gf.
i left gf because of the likes of you. and guess what, even your own people are leaving because you can't even look after yourselves, let alone expats.
Metopower and i'm sure, many many more, are in agreement. my bluntness may be the only difference but in essence, the stories are true about gf. nowadays, gf stands for get f##d. be warned, stay well clear.
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Applause for you scum for the most informative comment ever posted NOT, No one needs the likes of you who are nothing but snakes that are draining the industry resources and not producing yet griping and backstabbing thier employers, I'm glad gulf air got rid of you and I hope your current employer get rid of you aswell, You're not needed in the industry so go find a psychiastrist and continue your unrelenting whining around him about airlines, I'm ashamed that someone like you was once my co worker.Gulf air will recover and be in a good shape once again and be the employer of choise whether you like it or not, your presence in this topic is nothing but trouble making.
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What an unedifying spectacle! The airline is on a stretcher in the ICU, crew and staff are applying artificial respiration for all their worth, management is hacking off the odd limb and the usual suspects are rifling through the diminishing pockets. And then there are the hysterical observers...
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Wahahahahaha... This is absolutely hilarious. life through the imperial prism must be fascinating indeed.
Ps..anger management folks. I surely don't wanna fall under the yolk with some of the punters here at the helm. Phew. Better the devil you know, eh.
But I guess it's always the locals to blame..init, when thousands of AA staff where laid off.. It was a local management. An I doubt the department heads in Iberia were Malian.. So forth and so forth..yep it's always the locals. GF just scraped by the 3 star and so did a plethora of airlines across the globe.. SAS and KLM wer somewhere there too. Lo and behold BA a 4 star airline, how can that be Nigel sahib...tsk tsk tsk.. How rude of skytrax indeedy.
Ps..anger management folks. I surely don't wanna fall under the yolk with some of the punters here at the helm. Phew. Better the devil you know, eh.
But I guess it's always the locals to blame..init, when thousands of AA staff where laid off.. It was a local management. An I doubt the department heads in Iberia were Malian.. So forth and so forth..yep it's always the locals. GF just scraped by the 3 star and so did a plethora of airlines across the globe.. SAS and KLM wer somewhere there too. Lo and behold BA a 4 star airline, how can that be Nigel sahib...tsk tsk tsk.. How rude of skytrax indeedy.
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Flame: u were probably never his coworker because when he was here u were still in high school!!! I love your enthusiasm and frankly think brass is a bit over the top but are u serious about GF being an employer of choice? it has not been for over 10 year for sure! I don't think GF is horrible as they have always paid my salary on time and so on. On the other hand what is going on here is just insane! if u don't see the corruption and horrible decisions ur blind. PS if u r looking for people to blame have a look at the hierarchy.....90 percent local just saying
PPS....most national carriers management and boards are locals so it would be a similar cars anywhere....but this is extreme
PPS....most national carriers management and boards are locals so it would be a similar cars anywhere....but this is extreme
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Down the road
Our neighbours seem to be doing something right.
Etihad Airways trebles profit last year - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
Etihad Airways trebles profit last year - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
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So who are our fellow 3 star bedmates...
Air Asia-Low cost
Bahrain Air-Low cost
Cebu Pacific-Low cost
East Jet-Low cost
Monarch-Low cost
West Jet-Low cost...
...to name a few. Someone should let Mussalam & the board in on the terrible truth that we are nothing but a 2 bit airline trying to masuerade as a reputable international flag carrier.
Even Oman Air got 4 stars!
Air Asia-Low cost
Bahrain Air-Low cost
Cebu Pacific-Low cost
East Jet-Low cost
Monarch-Low cost
West Jet-Low cost...
...to name a few. Someone should let Mussalam & the board in on the terrible truth that we are nothing but a 2 bit airline trying to masuerade as a reputable international flag carrier.
Even Oman Air got 4 stars!
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The unavoidable truth is that Bahrain & Bahrainis are responsible for the dire situation that Gulf Air finds itself in today. For an airline that is 63 years old there is no excuse for not having a program that trained young promising Bahrainis for senior management positions. Instead we have the worst possible caliber of Bahrainis in positions whose talents consist solely of brown nosing, misappropriation & flesh peddling.
Sadly, it apprears that there is no move or even the will to correct this. In fact,apart from 2 Chief positions, not one Director/Senior manager has lost his/her job only the average employee is facing the axe.
Some Directors will have their titles changes but still receive the same benefits & salaries-so where's the saving there?
It seems the writing is finally on the wall for civil aviation in Bahrain, the only question is who will outlast the other Bahrain Air or Gulf Air?
Good luck all.
Sadly, it apprears that there is no move or even the will to correct this. In fact,apart from 2 Chief positions, not one Director/Senior manager has lost his/her job only the average employee is facing the axe.
Some Directors will have their titles changes but still receive the same benefits & salaries-so where's the saving there?
It seems the writing is finally on the wall for civil aviation in Bahrain, the only question is who will outlast the other Bahrain Air or Gulf Air?
Good luck all.
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Instead we have the worst possible caliber of Bahrainis in positions whose talents consist solely of brown nosing, misappropriation & flesh peddling.
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Meph.. We are not alone.. We gatz mo brethren in the 3 star shack..besides the run of the mill low cost carriers... US airways, united,klm,sas, jet airways..yada yada yada. Looks like we all in the ****z
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Everyone is entitled to his opinion I respect everyones standpoint, But when it gets to the point of bashing the company and retaliating from it in foums rather than providing some constructive opinions, Then only it gets unacceptable, I owe gulfair a lot of favours for providing me the opportunity to get a foot in the door and taking care of me to the point of turning me from a worthless jobless person to a licensed certifying engineer, And any insult directed at gf is directed at me aswell, I get disgusted when I read insulting comments like yours about the company, All you ever post are offenses to the company and its local staff, you never provide any informative discussions, Atleast have some respect to the company employees if its not for the company.
Everyone is entitled to his opinion I respect everyones standpoint, But when it gets to the point of bashing the company and retaliating from it in foums rather than providing some constructive opinions, Then only it gets unacceptable, I owe gulfair a lot of favours for providing me the opportunity to get a foot in the door and taking care of me to the point of turning me from a worthless jobless person to a licensed certifying engineer, And any insult directed at gf is directed at me aswell, I get disgusted when I read insulting comments like yours about the company, All you ever post are offenses to the company and its local staff, you never provide any informative discussions, Atleast have some respect to the company employees if its not for the company.
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I owe gulfair a lot of favours for providing me the opportunity to get a foot in the door and taking care of me to the point of turning me from a worthless jobless person to a licensed certifying engineer
So after all these posts, this guy is not even a pilot???
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Flamer ,
The only people you owe lots of favors to is your mommy and daddy. They are the ones that provided opportunities for you for all those years you were worthless and jobless. GF can easily put you back to that worthlessness without a second thought. Open your eyes. They are also sacking Bahrainis.
The only people you owe lots of favors to is your mommy and daddy. They are the ones that provided opportunities for you for all those years you were worthless and jobless. GF can easily put you back to that worthlessness without a second thought. Open your eyes. They are also sacking Bahrainis.