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Old 20th Apr 2012, 14:49
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Indeed. Get the 787 asap, get rid of Airbus Longhaul fleet and convert the outstanding A333 order to A320 NEO fleet to replace current A320 fleet.
Agreed to that.However,how many 320s do they require for short haul operations? More over,how many short haul destinations are there for gulf air to commence.Indian subcontinents have kept a limit on how many flights/passengers should come in when it comes to gulf air for unexplained reasons..Aside from the Arabian Gulf,the Middle eastern market is rather weak.
Cancelling the 333s would only delay gulf air from expanding since the 787s won't be joining the fleet until 2019.
As we have noticed,going purely regional and shrinking isn't proving to be a good tactic.Delaying the expansion may be fatal.
when it comes to Malaysia,Gulf Air is the only airline paying an immensely high
amount for fuel as the it hasn't been subsidiesed by the "highly educated and professional" MPs unlike its neighbours...Those subsidies allows them to to recuse their tickets price.On the other hand,being a small airline,GF needs issue competitive prices..I won't blame "curroption" actually.
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Old 21st Apr 2012, 03:55
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This argument about fuel costs is pretty stupid. At the end of the day its all the same thing to the Bahraini Government, give GF a fuel subsidy to show better figures but you'll lose out somewhere else, namely, BAPCO or whoever else is supplying jet fuel. (I'm pretty sure its BAPCO). So it doesn't really matter whether they give GF a subsidy or not, there's no incentive to any of it really, you can pretty much take the millions GF is about to get from the govt and call it a rebate for the fuel costs. Those millions come from BAPCOs profits anyway, and ALBAs, and BATELCOs, etc. etc.
So in reality GF is getting everything cheap. I remember hearing that when the EU started complaining about EKs cheap fuel the government stopped subsidizing it and started purchasing all empty seats in first class during all flights. Doesn't make a difference, its all one giant pool of money.
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Old 21st Apr 2012, 14:22
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Air france did the same thing as i recal
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Old 21st Apr 2012, 15:45
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I remember hearing that when the EU started complaining about EKs cheap fuel the government stopped subsidizing it and started purchasing all empty seats in first class during all flights.
Thats funny!
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Old 21st Apr 2012, 16:28
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Gulf Air is the only airline paying an immensely high
amount for fuel as the it hasn't been subsidiesed by the "highly educated and professional" MPs unlike its neighbours..
BSB, would you care to list what other airlines in the region are getting fuel subsidies, and what is the source of your information?

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Old 22nd Apr 2012, 07:18
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Heard from a local guy that he have seen in a local newspaper that the plan is to close 9 more destinations
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Old 22nd Apr 2012, 09:51
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By the looks of it even AIMS is shutting down.. Lol
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Old 22nd Apr 2012, 13:24
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The 737 goes on the FRA run for a couple of weeks on selected days, when it goes double daily, IIRC. I'll have to look that one up to confirm..

EDIT: planned from 25th May till 31st May is the 737 operating the FRA on day 2 and 7 only replacing the A330. CPH will see 737 until 30SEP when A320 takes over.

So 737 is doing CPH and FRA for now.

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Old 22nd Apr 2012, 16:12
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That's how often I check the webmail. LOL...
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Old 23rd Apr 2012, 22:46
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I guess many of you heard the saga of a GF “Secretary” who is on a BD 7000 payroll and the subsequent outcry and its seismic effect on the public opinion against the company. Apparently, questions have been asked by the hierarchy demanding an explanation from GF CEO even though it seems quite outrageous to even think that a lady secretary gets such a pay in an ailing company. However, public opinion against GF was too strong to overlook and allegation of corruption must be answered while it is seeking more public funds.


Since these MP’s get their information from within GF and from their moles ( some of whom are clearly identifiable by their long beards and short robes, others are no so recognizable since they actually fly modern aircraft and work in cockpits!) , such accusation could not be out rightly dismissed.


The MP’s of the religious parties made it very clear that they hold documented evidence on the BD 7000 lady employee. A quick check by the company did not reveal any secretary on such a pay scale. A meeting is held between GF and the parliamentary committee where GF management denies such allegations. Heated exchanges and accusation pursued and finally the MPs dropped the joker.


In fact, there is a lady in GF who is on a BD 7000 pay scale. She had a meteoric rise in the ranks all within the last few years. This lady has been the target of many rumors and hate campaigns spearheaded by some local pilots. When the name was revealed along with the pay slip , GF admitted the authenticity of the document , were hesitant to ask where these confidential documents have reached the parliament , but denied that she was a secretary.


How did the wording “Secretary” came about? This is another comical tale. When the information was initially passed to the parliament by the snitch, he did not mention her position. The Mullah, or MP , who was the recipient of the document , in his stereotypical mind assumed that any lady employee means a “Secretary” , so he went and publicly accused GF of paying a secretary BD 7000 !!!
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Old 24th Apr 2012, 07:24
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Long beards, short skirts 'n meteorical pay rises aside.. In a nut shell there are unethical practices and discrepenceis that need to be adressed if any sort of progress, however miniscule, is to be acheived. These issues have been brought up, be it by Gandolf or some snitch maverick.
Ps.. If ya think its all down the straight and narrow in there, you be dafter than a door knob..
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Old 24th Apr 2012, 10:29
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In fact, there is a lady in GF who is on a BD 7000 pay scale. She had a meteoric rise in the ranks all within the last few years.
Interesting, very interesting. That doesn't answer the question if the salary for this employee is justified or does it.

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Old 25th Apr 2012, 06:43
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Here we go again. I give you what you want if I get what I want...
Gulf Daily News » Local News » MPs' threat to veto Gulf Air bailout
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Old 25th Apr 2012, 07:34
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So basically Gulf Air is being held hostage until the demands are met?
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Old 25th Apr 2012, 08:38
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Yep. But it's the relation between the two demands that gets me. They couldn't be more different. If they asked for Gulf Air to come up with a solid plan and show them what they achieved and what they are going to achieve and how, en fair enough. ( open goal for sarcasm )

Anyhow, politics and business go hand in hand...
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Old 25th Apr 2012, 15:39
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And while they discuss their demands, captains will have to perform transit check in 23 destinations in order to reduce operational costs... and don't forget to bring with you a rain coat and/or an umbrella, specially with the monsoon approaching!
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Old 25th Apr 2012, 16:37
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I thought that notice to crew was recalled a few minutes after it was sent..
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Old 25th Apr 2012, 17:00
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Air Mickey Mouse.

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Old 26th Apr 2012, 06:09
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Talking

Mickey mouse is profitable....
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Old 26th Apr 2012, 15:13
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True, how about Goofie Air?
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