Actually none of it matters..nobody at GF is more or less qualified than anybody else to fly Boeing as any recency has long since gone..so there is no reason whatsoever to circumvent the seniority system thats in place...
Well said said Mr. Butt. But will that transpire this time around? I'm still waiting to interview and number one on my wanting to work at Gulf is the adherence to an true seniority system. It benefits ALL!, in the short term and LONG run.
On another note, I hear that several class dates have been postponed/cancelled. What is going on in/at the Pink palace? Are the guys with class dates next year Jan-Feb-Mar still going to start as told by the chief pilot in the final interviews?
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Thoughts about future management at GF
Given all the rumors that come part and parcel with an airline, especially about management and the future of it at GF, I thought the following article provided interesting food for thought:
Well done, totally agree. But, I think only opening a channel of conversation with management can save our seniority system at this stage once to give the opportunity to seniors guys to choose fly 777 they have to up grade juniors captains to wide bodies, up grade seniors FOs to a captains, FOs to a wide bodies and hire new people on bottom. I can't see this happening in couple months ahead they should start now and quickly. Looks like to be a excuse for later on hire rated guys just to be more convenience and cheaper. Doesn't matter who will fly what, let’s work as a team.
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If you are not aware of it, the training department is doing exactly what you are talking about....however there are limits to how much they can do and how fast they can do it....
Both, however as I said the training department has it's limitations, whether it is simultor availability, instructor workload and so on.
Luckily for GF they have been able to hire a lot of type rated pilots due to the global economic slowdown and therefore are on their way to catching up with the shortfalls which until fairly recently was beginning to resemble a dog chasing it's tail...
People have been promised a command in 18 months if they join as an f/o on the bus(ex capt pre credit crunch). How does that fit in with your seniority list.
They have accepted and begun trg.
Personnally Im enjoying early retirement with their partners whilst they are away trg.
Well, quite simply they will have to stand in line behind a lot of well qualified and in some cases equally experienced pilots and oh yes, nearly forgot, inshallah.
Sorry to get off topic a bit, have the two Jet Airways A330 received some kind of Gulf Air titles? If so, are there any pictures? Or are they flying as standard Jet aircraft?
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The wet-lease aircraft are entirely indistinguishable from the the rest of the Jet Airways fleet. The crews are Jet Airways crews wearing Jet Airways' uniforms, with the exception of two additional Gulf Air crew who provide Arabic language service.
Dont trust any interviewer saying you will get command in any time period (18months) unless its put in writing.
I must stress that any HR department will not want their FO's getting Foxtrot Oscar and leaving as this is a cost to the company and gives them more work. Airlines should be honest and open about their recruitment policy, and the ability to progress. For example when a new type is introduced its logical that there will be an intake of direct entry Captains and FO's but a good employer will also ringfence a given number or positions for internal candidates. However this gives rise to a question of what to do with FO's who will never make command?
For example when a new type is introduced its logical that there will be an intake of direct entry Captains and FO's but a good employer will also ringfence a given number or positions for internal candidates.
That sir, putting it nicely is simply not true. There is nothing logical about your statement and in any established airline it is simply not necessary nor is it standard practice.
Olbie is of course is quite correct with:
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How is that logical? Where did SQ, EK or QF find experienced 380 drivers?
Without giving my game away, I have worked for one of those carriers and I can assure you that what you are talking about never happened there nor will it.
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For example when a new type is introduced its logical that there will be an intake of direct entry Captains and FO's but a good employer will. . .
I assume you are talking about a completely disorganized airline. Yes, these types of things happen, but airlines that plan ahead at least a little don't. The ones that don't come up with all sorts of excuses and attempts at justifying their actions.
In school, my teacher didn't accept the excuse that "my dog ate the homework" and nor do I.
If so, are there any pictures? Or are they flying as standard Jet aircraft?
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