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Old 17th June 2008, 17:32   #1 (permalink)
 
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Angel Amiri Flight Abu Dhabi

Hi All...
I saw an Ad. in FLT INT last week June 1st for Amiri Flight B744 pilots.
Who is this "Amiri Flight"?
How many do they want?
What are the conditions and pay?

Any info. and/or contact details (apart from Tel. Fax. email, PO Box) would be appreciated.

Is it worth me while leaving European outfit for this?

God Bless...
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Old 17th June 2008, 18:04   #2 (permalink)
 
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But aren't you already in Qatar?
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Old 17th June 2008, 20:32   #3 (permalink)
 
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Amiri flight is like the Royal Flight basically unlike the Royal Flight however they use civilian pilots as opposed to military qualified. (Correct me if I'm wrong)
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Old 17th June 2008, 21:50   #4 (permalink)
 
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I have missed that add in Flight International.
Please I would appreciate if you can give me the contact email for this job.

Thanks.
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Old 17th June 2008, 22:11   #5 (permalink)
 
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Angel

you can write to Amiri Flight , P.O.Box 689 , AbuDhabi, U.A.E ,directly to the chief pilot. You will have to pass an assessment process first . You w'ont fly much though and will be on stby most of the time. Good luck .
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Old 24th June 2008, 11:32   #6 (permalink)
 
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Intaomri, you seem to be in the know.. Would you be able to bring some enlightenment to those of us in the dark...regards to terms and conditions ?

Would be much appreciated.. Cheers and thanks.

MJ
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Old 24th June 2008, 12:00   #7 (permalink)
 
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They require 8000 hours total, 2000 on B747 and prefer an instructor background. They do make exceptions though.
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Old 24th June 2008, 15:56   #8 (permalink)
 
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BANANAS Are they going to make an exception in your case??? Just remind us all how much it would cost you to leave SIA Cargo now?
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Old 29th June 2008, 10:50   #9 (permalink)
 
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Word on the street is it is a bit of an old boys flying club!

Probably not the easiest place to work, lots of people running around covering their ass!...afraid to make a mistake!
Good $$$, but crap lifestyle.
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Old 29th June 2008, 18:02   #10 (permalink)
 
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That seems to be true of most VIP operations, but I did hear AUH is not the happiest of places to be.......quite a bit of movement recently.
I wonder why!!
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Old 30th June 2008, 11:46   #11 (permalink)
 
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Angel

Interesting replies, thanks.

We still non the wiser though

Does anyone have beefy info.? Like what is the work pattern, do you have to live in Dubai or Abu Dhabi? or can you live abroad and only be present when on duty?

How much do they pay? Salary, Allowances, etc.

But most important, are they happy?

Many thanks, and God Bless... FN
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Old 30th June 2008, 12:11   #12 (permalink)
 
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Angel

Dear Forget,
I've just noticed your remark.

All I can say, your contribution to aviation is outstanding. However, your power of observation is somewhat lacking.

When one is in aviation, one travels all over the world. And believe it or not, Qatar is on Earth.

Now.... Do you know anything about Amiri Flight?

Thank you... FN
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Old 30th June 2008, 14:20   #13 (permalink)
 
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The management are a very rum lot - both the western management and the Arabs - hence the high turnover and great difficulty they have in recruiting pilots. I personally would not enjoy working for them. The salary is not as good as you would expect. Overall it is less than most European airlines pay their pilots, but since you don't pay tax it can work out as a bit better. When you consider the vast oil wealth of the Emirates - the fourth largest known oil deposits in the world, it is a pretty mean salary.

They provide accommodation, you cannot commute. Trip lengths are unknown each time you depart AUH; you might think you were going away for a few days and find you were away for several weeks. Wives are often unhappy.
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Old 1st July 2008, 00:35   #14 (permalink)
 
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Amiri want you on standby 24/7 so forget about commuting.
You can request maximum 6 days off a month but no more than two in a row and they are still not firm.
You will spend most of your time in morocco, sometimes up to 3 weeks.
No staff travel but you are given 1 firm ticket a year.
There is a big staff turnover mostly due to the poor management..ie. mafia style.
You cannot plan your life in any way shape or form due to being on standby. Often you will be told to pack for two nights and return 2 months later..but I guess thats the unpredictable world of private flying
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Old 1st July 2008, 00:38   #15 (permalink)
 
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The accommodation they provide is a hotel room in AUH
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Old 1st July 2008, 15:36   #16 (permalink)
 
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FlyingNun

I would have replied earlier but I have only just stopped laughing at your question asking whether you could live abroad whilst not on duty!! That question has now been answered by others.

You clearly have no idea what working for these kind of people entails. Then again perhaps you are still in the Nunnery and not flying as your name suggests
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Old 3rd July 2008, 22:52   #17 (permalink)
 
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I dont think you will find anyone from Amiri replying to this thread. I used to work there but left, not because of the T and Cs, but because there just wasn't enough money for accomodation.

The sby 7/24 was made quite clear at interview as were other conditions - no complaints there. Locals get about 25% more on salary than ex pats. Salary not great by European standards (I get more now flying the C560 XLS in UK) and its the same across all fleets. Lots of good people there but a few odd balls too.

Not much flying and true, lots of bull shit you would expect with VVIP ops.

Given more dosh I'd be happy to go back.....but that won't be an option.
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Old 5th July 2009, 15:30   #18 (permalink)
 
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Fuzzbear,

You're info is not quite correct. Yes, VVIP do require the pilots to be available but understand that the VVIPs in question are the Royal Family and oftenthe Head of State. As such, they do not move on short notice due to security and protocol measures needing to be arranged ahead of time. The shortest notice you can normally expect is at least 24 hours. Very rare and in extreme circumstances is the nitice time less than that; usually much more.

Hotel accom. is provided for three months in AUH as you seek accommodation arrangments for yourself and family; be it a villa or apartment in AUH or DXB. Travel is provided to your point of departure (nominated home) twice a year in business class or once a year in first class, whichever is to your advantage. It is paid in cash and you do as you wish.

Salary has increased and on par with any Euro operator but still not taxed. However, managment leaves a lot to be desired. Ex-Assie airforce without a clue how to manage in this environment; or most likely just lining his own pockets and get out ASAP like the last guy who was his class mate from the Airforce.

Still, could be a lot worse and as long as you can grease it on and no hard landings it is a pretty secure job.
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