Joining Qatar Airways (QR) - all you need to know about it (threads merged)

[iQatar]

@ITO. Have you already received a formal offer?

[ITO]

Yes I did.

[disagreeable]

Geez, your always being negative Disagreeable.... LOL

wow, isnt this what I have been trying to tell you guys!

Sorry to say, but this has been pre-warned to you guys for a fair while now;

You all are in an annoying situation, but sitting around and waiting for QR is only of benefit if you are ACTIVELY looking/persuing other flying jobs.

Yes, you may not have large amounts of experience, but like I ad others have mentioned before, its about starting small and building up the career, not just getting a golden goat jet job.... that goes for guys under 2000 - 3000 hours.! If your lucky and it fits, take it, if you just sit around and BS yourselves about "being positive", "praying to god" or simply just singing the praises in the hopes of sucking up to somebody in QR to give you something, then you are simply not being confident enough to walk away from the offer and look/make your own luck to speak.
I know, financial crisis etc, but you can manage to sit around waiting for QR, you can also put that into other efforts that will actually build your career. I know many of you are doing that and to them, best of luck!
However, if you are expecting an easy ride through aviation, you just learned a valuable lesson....... unless your offer has a starting date on it, you have signed it and are there on day one, then aviation is simply always going to be a gamble..... welcome....... I suggest the low houred guys (especially) read this book:
FATE IS THE HUNTER......

Good luck.

There is more out there than this place (and the many that leave should have given you the hint)..... one day QR will learn that, but they will learn it quicker if you dont sell your soul standing in line ignoring life and other opportunities waiting for this dusty opportunity.......... then QR may actually be motivated to truely lift its 2 star crew treatment to 5 star....

[salamalikum2]

Right on spot disagreeable.!

[RK303]

OMG…what a disaster…all those updates NTSOs received were a joke?

"At this stage, the manpower plan for 2013/14 does not indicate a requirement for direct entry Second Officers, outside those already in a cadet pilot sponsorship program with Qatar Airways."

The question remain, why QR did interview so many NTSO? However not such a bad new, at least you guys been delivered from another 2 years waiting game. Now people may move on. Oh and… avoid aviation for now …pilots are just suffering too much at this time…

[migair54]

So they sent 2 different email to the people in the pool???

In my email the don´t say anything about the FTSO, but they say this.


This update does not differ dramatically from the previous one, as we continue to employ pilots from the talent pool to meet our manpower requirements for 2013/14. To give you some indication of our hiring trends for the coming 12 months, we now have a small requirement for narrow body Captains throughout the year, along with some limited narrow body First Officer requirements toward the end of the year. We have a continuing need for wide body Captains and there could also be a limited requirement for Fast Track Second Officers on our wide body fleet toward the end of the year. It remains our intention to draw the majority of these requirements from the existing talent pool members wherever this is possible.
Our next update will be sent to you in May 2013 and I hope that many of you will begin to receive joining dates for this year between now and then.

Let´s see if it´s true that they start giving DOJ between now and May.

[DaCosta]

That is the email that everybody recieved. The NTSO got an extra email telling what somebody already wrote before here.

[jeanpaul172]

Indeed, all NTSO´s got a second e-mail which basicly told them:

'Thank you for waiting more than a year, but now it's time for you to move on. Bye bye'

A huge disappointment for those NTSO waiting for the 'Golden Goat'. But.. believe it or not, I actually feel relieved that I now finally can move on.
Goodluck

[stealth89]

Hi

All the candidates who are selected for NTSO & FTSO and are waiting in the pool, do you guys have to keep your instrument rating current?
If yes then the hole in the pocket will keep getting bigger in lieu with the recent updates

[checkthisout]

stealth89, if you are serious with that question and also passed the qr selection, then it is no wonder that they abandon so many talent pool ntso.

[Global01]

Hello swimmers euhh Sinkers ! Yes QA want you guys to have a Valid IR upon joining with min of 6 months validity, but doesn't mean they wont call you ! Anyway no more NTSO unless you have some big balls in here. I have surrendered after a long long wait, now its time to move on guys ! I know lots of ppl who passed the assessment after me and got their offer letters in DEC and FEB, why ? Because DADDY is a well connected captain at QA etc etc , Good luck to all of us...

[MD83FO]

QR accepts ICAO licenses such as FAA. there are no expiries.

[RK303]

What happened here is probably something terrible for some

My “cheaper” ICAO licence cost me a lot and been a complete loss but I remember many guys of my group did the mistake to get those expensive JAA licences. Some of them did renew their IR (due to a one year validity or something) while receiving all those fake updates to stay ready. I can’t imagine their terrible situation if they don’t find a decent flying job out there.

[Wings23]

What would you guys reckon the number of FTSO's in the pool is?

[iQatar]

What would you guys reckon the number of FTSO's in the pool is?

I think about half of everybody in the pool is FTSO's.And the biggest part of the other half is FO's with only a small number of Captains.

[migair54]

I heard that the total number of people in the pool is around 250, but that is just another rumor more.... I don´t think we will ever know the exact number of people there.


The issue with the license can be because to get a Qatari licence they might need to issue from another one, and same with the IR endorsement, It´s not the only place they do this, when I did in the country I´m flying now they ask me for the same thing, fully valid licence and then they contact my country licence authority for a verification or validation or authentication on that licence and then after an air law exam I got the new licence.
I´m not sure but this could be the case here.

[jeanpaul172]

Nrs in the pool are 500+.. At least 250 FTSO

[ironbutt57]

QR accepts ICAO licenses such as FAA. there are no expiries.

Not entirely true, your instrument currency needs to be maintained by verifiable logged hours, or an instrument proficiency check every 6 months by a suitably qualified instructor..

[jacekgfly]

Hey,

As a non TR FO, what are the chances that you will get a diffrent type when joining QR if you sign your contract for FO A320.

Has it happend in the past ??

[WXCptFedUp]

Hi guys,

For info and to give you an idea on the timeframe, a frined of mine who passed the selection in January 2012 as NTFO (He was captain with +6000 Hr) got a starting date for december 2013... no kidding, it's an absolute joke, about two years to get flying again... He refuses as he got a job with Emirates with only 2 weeks of waiting time... One less on the holding pool list. Hope this help to see where you are standing in the queue if still there.

cheers,

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