I got my interview in DOHA the 10th of September ! 2 months later, the 11th of Nov 2012 I got my good news ! So now Heading to Talent pool, and have to wait til end of February for new news !
What can I expect at the end of February ??
Cheers !
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So now Heading to Talent pool, and have to wait til end of February for new news !
What can I expect at the end of February ??
First of all welcome to the pool and congrats for passing the selection process.
Well 100's of us where/is hoping for some form of news at the end of November. I really hope they don't tell us to wait another 3 months. How they can still interview people when there is already a shed load of us waiting.
There is probably going to be another batch of Spanish pilots going to Doha again. (Iberia pilots).
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Hi folks, Another swimmer here looking for info. Interviewed as F/O 777 (currently flying 777) in May Bit of a 'lost your paperwork at the medical department' scenario... Good news after calling someone in the HR dept in October. Email to say that there will be more info at the end of November. A lot of posts here are from FTSO or NTSO. Anybody with news on FO (type rated on 777)? If they offer me A320 I won't go. Only interested in 777 F/O or maybe, possibly 787 F/O. Does anyone have inside knowledge of intake dates for someone in my boat? Its really great to have an avenue like this with such a wide range of people posting (including some employed in the sim and/or training departments it seems). Cheers
More direct joiners?! Haven't they learned from the past?
If the pilots are not bound to Qatar with a long term contract (type rating, etc) and QR takes over complete fleets from other companies they will soon leave again.
The middle east is not a place for everyone. Let those direct joiners have a glimpse at it first (e.g. come to Doha, stay there for a week/during assessment) before they get hired straight away. Or the same will happen as with many ex Spanair pilots - as per rumours.
There are many people waiting in the pool that know what is coming up to them once they are hired. And in general - there is a pool. So why hire complete batches again if there were so many issues the last time?
I can understand that it saves a company time and money (and training capacities) if you hire type rated direct entries. Which is in general a good thing. Win-win situation for both. But despite that, they still have to be standardized. So the effort to restandardize in such big numbers is actually the same as a complete type rating, referring to the past.
I am happy to be proven wrong in this case, maybe I am just overly suspicious.
Clinsta - hope you have applied to EK as well. They are hiring onto the 777 again. Although I do not know personally, I doubt QR would place a typed/experienced 777 pilot in an A320 - although I have been surprised in the past.
With Iberia and now SAS likely to furlough many experienced pilots, I guess it is likely the Gulf carriers will open their doors with special recruitment like QR did with Spanair - let's hope these pilots are more fluent in English...
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So now Heading to Talent pool, and have to wait til end of February for new news !
What can I expect at the end of February ?? First of all welcome to the pool and congrats for passing the selection process.
Well 100's of us where/is hoping for some form of news at the end of November. I really hope they don't tell us to wait another 3 months. How they can still interview people when there is already a shed load of us waiting.
There is probably going to be another batch of Spanish pilots going to Doha again. (Iberia pilots).
Yes, updates for pilots in "talent pool" are now extended for end of Feb 2013.... .... dry your eyes guys.
But there is still a small chance for experienced guys to get an earlier update/start date.
@clintsta Please apply for Emirates. You would be a fool not too. Overall package better ,company efficiency is ALOT better and lifestyle in Dubai is second to none compared to QR/Doha. Yes, you would most likely get on 777. And you be right to not take anything less. But it is QR and who the hell knows what you'll get
@Capt-Aviator Briefly on the FTSO contract/bond as i dont think its answerd yet; Bond over 5 years and $75k..... also, start taking bond payments from day one! So your screwed if you have a family, and your basically screwed again unless you get accomodation provided (which u quite possibly wont).... the FTSO pay is poor...... not to mention the time its taking them to be trained!!!!!!! Basically an S/O (FTSO or otherwise) has less respect than a 3 week trained F/A!!!! ... expect to not be told when or how long your training will be.
FTSO/SO Pay (Riyal, p/m): 9000 base. 1000 travel. 6000 housing (limits you to sharing or Ezdan towers ..... oh housing rents is expensive!!) you will spend it all, if not more. so QR 10k = 2750 USD = 2150 EUR...... (Per Month) Then you have a bond to pay out of that for new FTSO terms.... so minus 1388USD/5088QR.... SO YOU HAVE about $1380USD to live with per month......good luck with that!!!! talk about slave wages!!!! Hopefully that will get you wannbe's thinking.
Oh and like I keep saying, if you come as FTSO then you will wait while your FLC number gets less because of the DEC's/F/O's that get skipped over you and trained while you wait and wait and wait ......going broke for this fantastic opportunity to be treated like a starry eyed moron
I am not sayn not to come, I am saying be fully armed with both positive and negative realities of the place; then you will have no excuse.....good luck with your decision !
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From what I can see and from some friends that just got the good news that they passed this week , they will be getting an update in Feb '13. For those who have been in the pool for a while and without contracts it seems that it still stands for an end of Nov update ..... who knows what it will say though . For those of us with contracts just waiting well ..... hopefully we will hear something soon . People who had interviews in Jan - Feb '12 and got their contracts in May are starting to get their DOJ's Things are moving so stay positive
So in a nutshell, if one is joining QR as a FTSO/SO, they ought to be prepared to live on a shoestring budget for 1 year (until promotion to FO) and have saved enough money to cover existing financial obligations such as mortgage, loans, family support (eg. education, food and utility bills) for the said period (1 year)?
@CAv no probs, just trying to open peoples eyes..... and your absolutely right.... single = ~10kusd and family you need approx ~20k+ USD... i think was mention somwhere b4..... asnd yes, expect 12months to be trained (if you call it that).
@sqn12 tough position, but dont go broke/hungry waiting for QR! Patience is a virtue up to a certain point, then your just being foolish
Hi has anyone got any updates from HR . My last email was in july regarding the talent pool. interviewed Feb 29th 2012 First officer position Contract signed May 2012 assigned A320 Talent pool email July 31 2012 no news since then
Same situation here, done the assessment in mid January 2012 A320 FO (NTR), swimming since July. Nothing since then. Any info would be good really. Thank God I dind´t quit my current job....
Hey there guys! So apparently most of you the guys here are either in the "talent pool" or are already flying. My question can sound a little innocent but I need to know how to apply. I have a couple of Middle Eastern friends who got in but they had some pretty good connections, something that I do not have. What I do have is an ICAO fATP, MCC and Type rating on the A320 family but with no experience on it. The thing is, I see people being interviewed without satisfying the minimum requirements stated on their website so quite frankly, what am I missing? Only a connection?
The thing is, I see people being interviewed without satisfying the minimum requirements stated on their website so quite frankly, what am I missing?
What do you mean by that? Qatar Airways interview NTSO's, which basically is pilot's straight out of flight school. FTSO have little bit more experience and then you get the rated or non rated FO's. So I don't know how you can say people do not satisfy minimum requirements. If you have a type rating with no time on it i.e. you have bought it or got made redundant or sacked, QR will probably made you redo the type rating. A lot of people attended open days and got invited for interviews after that.
Well, I mean whenever I check the minimum requirements stated on their website, it says: First Officers
Minimum of 1,000 hours in one of the following categories:
- Multi Crew, Multi Engine Jet Aircraft
- Command Turbo-Prop above 20,000kg MTOW
- High Performance Military Jets
Second Officers - Fast TrackMeet atleast one category of the flying experience listed below:
o A Minimum of 1000 hrs on a modern multi pilot, multi engine, turboprop aircraft greater than 12,000 kg MTOW
o A Minimum of 300 hours on a multi engine, multi crew jet aircraft
o A Minimum of 1500 hours on a multi crew multi engine helicopter
o A Minimum of 2000 hours Pilot in Command on single engine, single crew turboprop aircraft (Multi Crew Co-operation Certificate required).
I think that a lot of people have not fulfilled these requirements but were interviewed, what I wanted to ask was what was the appropriate channel to do so from? Cause clearly, online is not the way to go. And when they have an open day here, the representatives always say that the min is +-1000 hours TT with appropriate ratings....Yet still, I know this is the "formal, official" way. I am not saying I want to do something illegal or out of the standard just for me but what I want to know is how can I let them get a hold of my documents, read them and give me an interview like all the other people doing so.
iQatar says: Qatar Airways interview NTSO's, which basically is pilot's straight out of flight school. FTSO have little bit more experience and then you get the rated or non rated FO's.
Let me clarify a slightly insulting definition of FTSO's: NTSO's = Zero real world experience; probably young and ignorant; will accept all manner of BS given too them so they can have or keep a jet job; Less than 300Hrs total!
FTSO = 3 - 8years exp; most likely a person who busted ther arse working in G.A/RPT; highly likely they didnt have the A/C weight requirement to be called an F.O; 10 to 20 times the experience of cadets(NTSO)
F.O = 3 - 8 years exp; jet time (most likely) and/or A/C weight over threshold limit. 10 to 20 times the experience of cadets(NTSO)
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iQatar says: So I don't know how you can say people do not satisfy minimum requirements. If you have a type rating with no time on it i.e. you have bought it or got made redundant or sacked, QR will probably made you redo the type rating. A lot of people attended open days and got invited for interviews after that.
@Continueapproach I think there is some people that gained entry to QR that didnt have the requirements that you maybe refering too? either way, thats connections for you.
You dont have connections, you have no time on type, and your total time is nothing to influence. You will have to do type rating again, and be bonded. You most likely not get called any sooner (but may be lucke). You have wasted your $$$ on A320 rating!! Try Cebu Air in Indonesia (get a few years exp) and then apply here or EK. good luck
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pool and congrats for passing the selection process.
.... dry your eyes guys.
Pool update ... thoughts
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