Not quite sure how many times things have to be repeated for them to sink in here:
No news most likely is good news for applicants. Dont do anything stupid with your current jobs or future jobs unless you have a QRcontract and a start date in your hand! Chances could also mean that the organisational chaos that is QR office may have also lost your paperwork.
If you are wondering why no one replies to your emails at QR or even answers the phone....... is the same thing 'we' wonder and 'we' are in QR!!! The organisation here is a mess.... bad systems/templates for office tasks makes for a confusing and often requires "monk like patience" in getting answers to anything. Expect to be misdirected, lied too or even just ignored..... Thats the indian/QR way.
Yes there will be opportunities for pilots and other staff for a long time. but that is not the only thing you need to think of before you come here!
Training for FTSO's and S/O's is extremely slow. Expect to be told nothing and live frugally untill your done....whenever that is! Also note: Capt's anf F/O's (especially type rated ones) are pushing/jumping the que with the training slots..... I understand why, but its a way of treating people and the worst bit about it is your seniority number is getting less and less every time they push someone in front of you! So your fleet transfer and capt upgrade are all being pushed back.
Come here if its the ONLY option you have. Its still an o.k place but you will need large amounts of flexibility and patience..... oh expect fatigue.... lots of it.
Will there be any kind of preferance for those of us who have applied/registered a while back but havent been invited for an interview yet? I applied in April and meet all the requirements etc, but will be rather dissapointed if I have to reapply again from scratch and then wait another 12 months before any interview possibility..
@startright Thank you for the info and update. Can you tell us in what order QR will call us to join? On what will the order of joining be based? Can I assume that the new joiners will join the A320 fleet, as those A320 pilots are going on to the B787?
Asking for opinions, Would you leave your current employment as FO on Cl850 on bussiness aviation based in Moscow, 15th off 15th on, salary ok but not QR salary, to go to Qr on Fo's basis and 320 assigned? taking into account is a good opportunity to be upgraded to 320. Got my DOJ, still some doubts, appreciatte open opinions
Hello karioca Well I would go, but this is a very personal decision. If you see benefits for you career, go. If not, stay. How long did you wait for your DOJ? Did you get it recently? I think there are quite a lot of pilots hoping for a DOJ for QR on this forum.
Karioca, Congratulations on getting your DOJ! Seems like things are rolling again I would go for Qatar, but that's my opinion. I guess your life / work in Moscow has a lot of pro's as well. When are you joining? I did my interview in january as well (NTSO though).. Haven't got a contract yet. Hope to get some good news too, but I realise there are others waiting even longer (Tritzo 12,5 months..). Let's hope for the best. Goodluck!
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If you are asking whether to go to Doha or to stay in Moscow, I can only speak for myself. I would go to Doha.
Qatar Airways might sure be a good horse to bet on. The other side might be Doha to live with. And the local culture(s). And the climate. And the everyday aspects which might not be logical than rather much more random.
But once you learn to live with it, you even might start to like it. The middle east is very different from any other kind of place on earth. It can be a very good choice, and it can also be the least favourable place you want to be, depending on what you make of it (if you have a family that has different opinions about your decisions for instance, or if you cant cope with the climate/culture/lifestyle whatever...)
Good luck with your decisions and I hope to meet you soon in Doha
Congrats on getting your DOJ - that is good news. I am not a QR pilot, but I agree it is a personal choice that has many pros/cons to consider. Some questions that I would be asking myself:
- Do you wish to continue flying VIPs or would you be happy flying airline passengers? The lifestyles are very different.
- Would you be happier living in Russia or in the Middle East? Very different weather, cultures, daily flight destinations, etc.
- Does your current job provide job security or upward mobility? Or will you continue to sit in your CRJ for the forseeable future? No airline these days provides much job security - but Qatar's economy appears to be growing.
- Do you have family support for a move to the Middle East? If you have family who would accompany you, I would get their buy-in as well because they will remain there while you are flying around the region.
- Lastly, as an A320 pilot at QR, the flying schedule appears to be quite rigorous (actually on all fleets). Are you OK with that amount of work per month? See previous threads talking about the typical hours flown per month - very rigorous to say the least - and that should be a consideration.
With the 787s and A350s coming in the next few years, there should be great upward mobility at QR. Starting on the A320 fleet does not mean you will stay there - you could easily find yourself in a 787 or A330 or even an A350 in a few years. If you are a fan of technology, QR certainly will provide the most advanced equipment in the industry. Certainly more high tech than the CRJ you are currently flying. That said, QOL, family support and the desire to live in a different culture should be your overarching considerations.
Hello Karioca.. Depends what kind of lifestyle you prefer to lead and how much free time means to you, but i personally would go for Doha Soon you will have people on this forum telling you why you shouldn't go but remember it is ONLY your decision so make it wisely. I hope this means that other people , mostly those in the talent pool will start getting DOJ gradually.. Hope to see you one sunny day in Doha Cheers