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Old 14th Oct 2012, 04:34   #5541 (permalink)
 
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Thanks for the updates guys. I will keep checking back for the updated form.
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Old 14th Oct 2012, 14:56   #5542 (permalink)
 
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Not being disrepectful, but are senior 777 FOs not also offered 787 Captain slots as those airplanes begin to arrive? We have heard from several posters on this thread that 787 slots will be given to the A320 pilots - but I assume senior 777 FOs will also be offered Captain slots on those airplanes as they arrive - no? Not sure how that works in terms of pecking order and who gets offered what.

No doubt the DEC scheme would be maddening and super-frustrating for anyone on the edge of upgrade at any non-western, non-seniority-secured airline like QR or EK. But with significant upcoming fleet growth at QR, can a Senior 777 FO bid open slots in other fleets like an open A330 Captain slot - or are those slots reserved primarily for senior A330/320 FOs?

If you are hired into the 777 fleet today, is the expectation that you will remain in that fleet and not move to another at any point? Or can you bid/request another fleet after a certain amount of time?

This fleet transfer question has always been a bit vague. Cheers for any clarification.

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Old 17th Oct 2012, 14:37   #5543 (permalink)
 
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Yeah, We are all waiting. Last lime they said Updates in November. Keeping fingers crossed!
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Old 17th Oct 2012, 18:12   #5544 (permalink)
 
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I hear some people have been given DOJs in November & December.
No idea of their fleet or ranks though. It seems they interviewed in Feb/ March, so there is some movement within the pool.....

LJ
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Old 17th Oct 2012, 18:55   #5545 (permalink)
 
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Luvly,

Do you know when these DOJ's were given?
I know some NTSO's who received contracts / DOJ's in July.. they're joining in Sept/ Oct / Nov and December on the A330.

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Old 18th Oct 2012, 10:57   #5546 (permalink)
 
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Disappointment is obvious, I guess..
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Old 18th Oct 2012, 14:30   #5547 (permalink)
 
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The DOJs given to the SOs for NOV and DEC was sometime back (3 months ago or so).
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Old 18th Oct 2012, 16:55   #5548 (permalink)
 
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Does Qatar have a limit on how long someone is in the pool before they are no longer accepted? It seems from reading the threads that some have went more than a year and were successful?
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Old 19th Oct 2012, 01:58   #5549 (permalink)
 
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Generally qr don't have there act together in the office, and u will never know if they have a time limit cause nobody knows and the rules change constantly anyways. Just be patient and look and take other jobs if they arise first. QR is not a safe bet
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Old 19th Oct 2012, 19:38   #5550 (permalink)
 
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Waiting is the message...

Hi All,
Just a small update... but I guess you know all this by now.
I talked to one of the engineers who is working for the current company I am flying for, and he has a friend working for QR as a line training captain and also in the recruitment department. The ones who passed the selection are indeed in a hold pool for an unknown period of time, due the to the fact that the B787 are being delayed. This is apparently the only reason why everything is on a hold. And nobody knows for how long.
The fact is that those B787 are coming, and when they start to arrive as planned, then QR will start calling people. Most people from the A320 are going on the B787.
But I am not telling anything new here.
And again... waiting is the key here and keep on looking elsewhere.
Cheers,
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Old 20th Oct 2012, 02:37   #5551 (permalink)
 
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CCCC,

Thank you for the updated information. I understand you do not work for QR, but I still am trying to understand the crewing for the 777. It has been stated numerous times that 787 slots will be filled by current A320 pilots. Does that mean that senior 777 FOs are not offered 787 Captain slots? Can a senior 777 FO bid an open A320 Captain slot if desired? Are 777 pilots expected to stay on that fleet and not move elsewhere?

With DECs entering the 777 fleet, are senior FOs on the 777s relegated to slower upgrade prospects or can they bid other fleets like the 787 and A330 fleets as slots open?

Appreciate any insight from anyone in the know.

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Old 20th Oct 2012, 09:18   #5552 (permalink)
 
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Iver,

I asked that question at interview.
I was told that B777 FOs are offered upgrades on A320. Or, they can choose to wait (quite a bit) longer for upgrade on B777.

No idea about B787 though.

Keep swimming!

LJ

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Old 20th Oct 2012, 15:20   #5553 (permalink)
 
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I have no idea about fleet transfer/upgrade.
First get there as a FTSO, and when time arrives, then I will worry about upgrade/fleet transfer.
Cheers,
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Old 20th Oct 2012, 17:12   #5554 (permalink)
 
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Cheers LJ and CCCC,

Appreciate the update. With many DECs coming into the different fleets, it is good to know that senior FOs will have some other options for Command.
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Old 22nd Oct 2012, 12:21   #5555 (permalink)
 
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Any idea how much time does it normally take to know the result after the interview?
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Old 22nd Oct 2012, 17:34   #5556 (permalink)
 
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6-8weeks normally
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Old 22nd Oct 2012, 17:40   #5557 (permalink)
 
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.....

4 1/2 months ...
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Old 22nd Oct 2012, 19:38   #5558 (permalink)
 
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So does it mean the longer it takes its going to be a positive result?
Thank you
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Old 22nd Oct 2012, 20:32   #5559 (permalink)
 
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I think a good rule of thumb is if it takes longer than 2 weeks it will most likely be good news.
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Old 22nd Oct 2012, 20:33   #5560 (permalink)
 
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Thank you very much
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